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Jon Jones 48 71.64%
Chael Sonnen 17 25.37%
Draw 2 2.99%
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:33 AM   #51 (permalink)
 
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Machida is as fake a black belt as vitor is, if Chael is getting subbed it's not gonna by a guillotine it's gonna by a triangle/armbar from top position but again jones is not a black belt so I hardly see how he is gonna do that.
But Chael can submit Jones because he...submitted Stann? Lol ok.

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Old 04-25-2013, 11:45 AM   #52 (permalink)
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Jones submitting Sonnen is a real possibility but I'm still going with Jones finishing him with nasty elbows to the head and knees to the body. More of a Jones vs Shogun type finish, meaning Sonnen is going to get dropped and stopped via devastating punishment.
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Old 04-25-2013, 11:51 AM   #53 (permalink)
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Jones submitting Sonnen is a real possibility but I'm still going with Jones finishing him with nasty elbows to the head and knees to the body. More of a Jones vs Shogun type finish, meaning Sonnen is going to get dropped and stopped via devastating punishment.
I agree I think Jones wins by TKO more then likely. Since he is by far the better standup fighter and has an insane reach advantage. If he wants to he can put Chael away in the 1st minute.
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Old 04-25-2013, 12:58 PM   #54 (permalink)
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Its not about what Rashad couldn't do but more so what he didn't even try to do. Rashad didn't really try and wrestle at all he just kept playing that hand tapping elbow eating game plan. It was like he was trying to implement a game plan of getting Jones to break an elbow on his head.
Rashad watched Jones fight Rampage, he kept mentioning all the time that you should not stand in front of Jon and let yourself get picked apart, gotta go inside and fight him. Rashad had it in his head to get close to Jon and try to make it a dirty grappling fest. But he couldnt. Belfort had the same idea but he couldnt take Jones down but instead had to keep pulling Guard to get him down. Jones is not easy at all to be forced down, Guard pulling works fine for Jon because he has a great Top Game. Belfort can work from the bottom with his BJJ. Sonnen's only chance to take Jones down consistently is to pull Guard, but if he pulls Guard its going to even look worse. Sonnen is not even at Vitor's level from the bottom. Sonnen is going to get demolished, he has the disadvantage almost everywhere: Standing Clinching, Reach using, in and out, Bottom and Top game, everything, his only saving saving grace is his double leg and its alot harder to do it on Jones than it looks, Machida blitzes faster than Sonnen and he still got caught, Sonnen will get caught coming in and dropped at some point, eventually its Jon's choice to finish by either TKO or Sub.

Talking alot of crap does not magically increase Fighting Ability like a Super Saiyan powerup, I really wish the hardcore Nick Diaz and Chael Sonnen (and other trash talkers) Fans can realize this eventually.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:36 PM   #55 (permalink)
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Chael via reverse flying gogoplata or a swarm of locusts.
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I agree I think Jones wins by TKO more then likely. Since he is by far the better standup fighter and has an insane reach advantage. If he wants to he can put Chael away in the 1st minute.
Not sure about this. His striking is good, but he isn't some animal. His reach is great, but he isn't a finisher exactly with his strikes. He more or less breaks you down. And likes to start off slow.

I'd be surprised if he won by strikes in the first. Unless he gets a TD and unleashes crazy elbows.
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I think Chael's going to do a lot better than most of you think, while still getting beaten up. Jones has fought a lot of guys that stand in front of him, Chael needs to get close and push Jones backwards.

My guess is it's a 3rd round TKO but Chael gives Jones some trouble before hand, Jones being tall and lanky naturally suffers the disadvantage in leverage in the wrestling portion of the fight so Chael needs to keep his head down and try to push Jones around. If he stands still for 10 seconds he'll start to be done. Jones has never really been pushed back, he is the master of lulling guys into his range and rhythm but Chael being Chael charges forward like a bull. Should atleast be a good fight for a round or two until Chael can't eat any more elbows. This isn't Thales Leites or Maia that are hopeless, Chael is more like a mini Brock Lesnar. Jones' spinning fancy moves and elbows work best when he's lulled his opponents into watching him, he won't be able to do that stuff if Chael can push him against the cage and ram his shoulder into Jones midsection
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Not sure about this. His striking is good, but he isn't some animal. His reach is great, but he isn't a finisher exactly with his strikes. He more or less breaks you down. And likes to start off slow.

I'd be surprised if he won by strikes in the first. Unless he gets a TD and unleashes crazy elbows.




Jones' striking is vicious, he can easily finish Sonnen in this manner. I'd say there's a good chance Sonnen won't last nearly as long as Shogun did if Jones tees off on him. Shogun can withstand incredible amounts of punishment, Sonnen not so much.
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Jones' striking is vicious, he can easily finish Sonnen in this manner. I'd say there's a good chance Sonnen won't last nearly as long as Shogun did if Jones tees off on him. Shogun can withstand incredible amounts of punishment, Sonnen not so much.
Shogun stood fltfooted and tried to strike and by the time he was getting pummelled badly he was already out on his feet and it was a matter of time. Jones is vicious if you stand in his range because that's how fighting works, if the shorter guy stays at moderate range from a lanky guy he is going to get annihalated nearly every time. Close that gap and don't let the taller guy tee off like Shogun did, I remember watching that thinking, wtf is Shogun doing, he's gonna die. In that gif he backs right up into the cage and Jones tees off like it's golfing season because Shogun allowed Jones to control the range. There is a range every fighter has where his strikes are the most powerful and if you stand in that range while the other fighter is not in your power range it's impossible to win the fight. That left to the body that buckled Shogun wouldn't have done nearly as much if Shogun was 2 inches from Jones left arm
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Shogun stood fltfooted and tried to strike and by the time he was getting pummelled badly he was already out on his feet and it was a matter of time. Jones is vicious if you stand in his range because that's how fighting works, if the shorter guy stays at moderate range from a lanky guy he is going to get annihalated nearly every time. Close that gap and don't let the taller guy tee off like Shogun did, I remember watching that thinking, wtf is Shogun doing, he's gonna die. In that gif he backs right up into the cage and Jones tees off like it's golfing season because Shogun allowed Jones to control the range. There is a range every fighter has where his strikes are the most powerful and if you stand in that range while the other fighter is not in your power range it's impossible to win the fight. That left to the body that buckled Shogun wouldn't have done nearly as much if Shogun was 2 inches from Jones left arm

I agree about keeping your distance but the problem for Sonnen (and every fighter that has faced him) is that he has to get in range in order to have even a slight chance at beating Jones and when he does Jones will pick him apart.
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