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post #41 of 97 (permalink) Old 04-28-2013, 11:55 AM
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Silva is the one person 205 lbs or less that can likely beat Jones right now.

His striking is far superior(never been that high on Jones' striking) and he easily has the most dangerous guard/submissions of anyone Jones has ever faced.

If Jones tried to strike with Silva it would look worse then the Jones vs Machida fight with Silva picking Jones apart. Eventually Jones would work his way in close and take Silva down(or try to, Silva has a mean clinch game so that might make it a little tricky for Jones who usually counts on getting the clinch and then a throw or trip from there) and then he would have to be careful of armbars especially as well as triangles.

Jones could overwhelm Silva with his strength and wrestling and force a stoppage with ground and pound but it won't be easy since Silva is a fair sized guy who is extremely skilled both standing and from his back.
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I want to believe this but can we get a source please?

EDIT: Sweet jesus IT'S TRUE!!!

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NEWARK, N.J. – Chael Sonnen had just finished a characteristic rant on the fickle competitive appetites of champion fighters – Anderson Silva (33-4 MMA, 16-0 UFC) and Jon Jones (18-1 MMA, 12-1 UFC) in particular – when UFC President Dana White chimed in with some apparently good news.

"Anderson called and wants a fight," said White, who declined to name the middleweight champ's target.

Asked whether the proposal was between Jones and welterweight champion Georges St-Pierre, however, White said yes.

That could be great news for the UFC and White, who previously has said he has to make Jones vs. Silva happen.

Silva, though, already has one potential roadblock staring him in the face. He's scheduled to meet Chris Weidman in the headliner of UFC 162, which takes place July 6 at MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. White is very aware of that fact, and that's why he repeatedly declined to divulge specifics about their conversation.

"(Silva has) got to get past his first fight, and then I'll work on that one," White said.

The logical conclusion would be that Silva called about Jones, because it was Jones who on Saturday put a thumping on Sonnen in the headliner of UFC 159 at Prudential Center in Newark, N.J. Why would the pound-for-pound great make a point to call the UFC exec about St-Pierre, who's all but snuffed out the often-broached idea of an immediate superfight?

White said it's all speculation until Silva gets past Weidman. What he did say, though, is that if Silva doesn't get past Weidman, fans can say goodbye to any superfights featuring the middleweight kingpin.

"Anderson is the key to the whole puzzle," White said. "If Weidman beats Anderson, it blows the whole superfight concept."

Current betting lines have Silva as high as a 3-to-1 favorite, which isn't nearly as lopsided as the ones for Jones vs. Sonnen. The light-heavyweight champ, who defended his belt a fifth time, was as high as an 11-to-1 favorite to beat two-time middleweight title challenger Sonnen.

Sonnen, for one, is not optimistic about a meeting between Jones and Silva.

"These guys should be calling Dana right now, begging him to fight each other, and it's not going to go that way," he said. "You've got these two guys, and they're great, but they're a couple of chickens. They should be calling each other out. They should grab the mic and say, 'I want to fight that guy. I don't want the debate. I want to figure this out. Give me a date; give me a time.'

"But it won't happen that way. Dana's going to have to call these guys, and they're going to have to dangle a carrot, and they're going to want to negotiate. We're in the fight business. If you don't want to fight, don't raise your hand."

That's when White piped up, and the crowd, which up until that point had been focused on Jones, was palpably intrigued. Silva has been known to be fickle with who and when he fights, but maybe after tonight, that's a thing of the past.
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but ..... im sure silva saw all kinda holes in JBJ top game ... ill call it now Anderson via 2nd round sub most likely a triagle or armbar
If mr no sub defense sonnon can make it 4and a half rounds a jon jones that is bigger stronger and has better sub defense long limbs more power and better wresting can hold off long enough to tko silva especially if the reffs stop the fight as quickly as they did the last one.

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The size difference would be a factor, but I think it would be competitive, you are talking about the #1 P4P fighter here, its going to be a competitive fight. I just shake my head when people assume that Silva will do WORSE than Sonnen for some reason. Sonnen really has some of the most delusional fans. This is the #1 and #3 P4P fighters going at it (Still think GSP is #2, I dont rate finishes, just wins). Whatever happens, if it last 1 Round or 5, both of them are going to have their moments. As long as I get to see GSP vs Silva vs Jones in some way, im happy.
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The size difference would be a factor, but I think it would be competitive, you are talking about the #1 P4P fighter here, its going to be a competitive fight. I just shake my head when people assume that Silva will do WORSE than Sonnen for some reason. Sonnen really has some of the most delusional fans. This is the #1 and #3 P4P fighters going at it (Still think GSP is #2, I dont rate finishes, just wins). Whatever happens, if it last 1 Round or 5, both of them are going to have their moments. As long as I get to see GSP vs Silva vs Jones in some way, im happy.
Who said silva would do worse?
I just think jones is p4p the best and will win.

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Jones is cocky enough to try and stand with Silva, and that would be a good fight. If he comes with a gnp strategy I don't see how Silva gets out of the first. Silva has a relaxed old school bottom game, he would try to get hand control on Jones and we all know that leads to eating elbows.
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Never ever say Anderson Silva doesn't have a chance, the guy could fight Cain Velasquez, JDS, Overeem and then Jones all in one night and I would not say he had zero chance the guy is for purpose of fighting apparently immune to the laws of physics, hell I am not convinced he isn't gonna start levitating in the cage one night.

That said stylistically if Jones fought Silva the way he fought Sonnen last night I think it would work out well for him. I think Jones has the skills to give Anderson fits but we have a fallen for that trick again.




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I would never count Silva out of anything but I do think it's Jones that would prevail if they fought. But as I already mentioned in the other thread regarding this same topic Dana will say anything to get people's wheels spinning. I'll believe these two are really fighting each other when Jones vs Silva are tapping gloves in the ring. Much like Silva vs GSP.
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Chael is a dick, all I gotta say. He approached the Jones fight like Anderson Silva who have, and lost, putting Silva on the spot. That's how I felt at least, he was muay thai clinching, kneeing, and trying to keep the fight standing...never once did he try to wrestle or take Jones down, he merely used his wrestling abilities to stay on the feet. Again, Chael shows that he is jealous of Silva and can't stand that his place in MMA is divine.

As for Silva vs Jones. Jones showed tonight that his reach and strength are just unreal, the fact that he got double leg takendowns on Chael by sheer power shows how difficult of an opponent he would prove to be for Silva. All Jones would have to do is pin Silva against the cage, and from there drop a level, grab both his legs with his massive reach, and stand up and then just drop Silva on his back. Now what would be interesting to see is if Silva decides to roll with this and allow Jones to take him down to work his JJ game, Vitor showed Jones had holes in his game there. So far we know this, Jones's wild fighting style leaves him susceptible to submissions on the ground, Jones striking is mediocre at best and he has no KO power, Jones has devastating ground and pound, Jones wrestling defense is 2nd to none, Jones wrestling offense is very good, Jones submission and jitz game is not technical, but done through sheer power. I think Silva has a good chance to beat Jones if he can doesn't get fooled by his mind games of being a good person, working hard etc. Jones fights like a son of a bitch, we all know he's a fake, you can be nice and humble outside of the cage, but then suddenly when that cage opens he turns into an animal, yeah, he's full of himself if he thinks people don't see that he's an individual that enjoys inflicting pain onto others.
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What do Sonnen or your little rant have to do with anything? Are you upset that he told Jones and Silva to stop acting like politicians and fight? He's absolutely right. These two have spent years refusing to fight one another because they were more worried about their brands, and only now is one acknowledging the other. Say what you want about Sonnen, but how many men have stepped up and challenged both Silva and Jones? How many men have actually charged Anderson and Jones and brought the fight to them? Chael's taken his licks from both, but at least he had the fortitude to go out on his terms. He didn't catch an arse kicking running away.

Jones and Silva should be looking to fight one another. Jones can claim the number one spot and make more money than he ever even dreamed. And for Silva, who now cares more about legacy than money, it's a chance to truly solidify himself as the greatest of all time. Most fighters can only dream of such scenarios, and that's all Sonnen was getting at. He called out both when it didn't even make sense to do so... because he believes in fighting and being the best. And Jones and Silva should as well, especially as they're regarded by many as the number one and two fighters in the world.
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