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Old 04-29-2013, 02:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Didn't see any even close to being illegal.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Didn't see any even close to being illegal.
Yeah I don't see it at all.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:02 PM   #13 (permalink)
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As far as I know a 12-6 elbow means your arm is vertical and your fist is up in the air. I don't think this would be considered a 12-6 elbow (correct me please).

Luckily there's a gif of Jones doing what I think is a 12-6 elbow.

Dana always says an incompetent ref gave Jones his loss, but if those aren't 12-6 I don't know what is. It may be a stupid rule but it is a rule. I am not a big fan of Mazzagatti but those are 12-6.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:11 PM   #14 (permalink)
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The issue with the Bones loss to Hamill is the elbows didn't end the fight. They were not why Hamill wasn't able to continue. Hamill dislocated his shoulder during a grappling exchange and that was the injury that prevented him from continuing. That is why the DQ is BS IMO.
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First Silva cheats with an illegal knee, and now Jones cheats with an illegal elbow.

Chael Sonnen - rightful MW and LHW champion!
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:20 PM   #16 (permalink)
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First Silva cheats with an illegal knee, and now Jones cheats with an illegal elbow.

Chael Sonnen - rightful MW and LHW champion!
If he could have just survived a few more seconds in his first shot at Silva or in this fight he would have had a belt. It's his on fault really.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:36 PM   #17 (permalink)
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Nothing illegal about it, this thread ended at post #2.
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The issue with the Bones loss to Hamill is the elbows didn't end the fight. They were not why Hamill wasn't able to continue. Hamill dislocated his shoulder during a grappling exchange and that was the injury that prevented him from continuing. That is why the DQ is BS IMO.
While Matt Hamill did say he could not continue (because of his shoulder) after the fight was stopped because of the illegal elbows, it was stopped because of the elbows! Its pretty simple!

The illegal elbows stopped the fight, Hamill could not continue. The only option then is to DQ the fighter who caused the fight to be stopped because of illegal elbows.

If Jones did not throw illegal elbows there is no question he would have won that fight, but one must follow the rules when Maz is the ref!
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While Matt Hamill did say he could not continue (because of his shoulder) after the fight was stopped because of the illegal elbows, it was stopped because of the elbows! Its pretty simple!

The illegal elbows stopped the fight, Hamill could not continue. The only option then is to DQ the fighter who caused the fight to be stopped because of illegal elbows.

If Jones did not throw illegal elbows there is no question he would have won that fight, but one must follow the rules when Maz is the ref!
The fight was stopped because of the elbows to inform Jones the elbows were illegal. But the fight didn't continue due to a shoulder injury. If there was no shoulder injury then Matt could have potentially been given time to recover and continue the fight.
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Agreed.

Chael won that fight 2 different ways. Jon really should have been DQ'd, any other ref would have did it.

Chael was able to out-last Jon on the battle field as he injured Jones. But the ref didn't realize Chael was perfectly fine and was intelligently defending himself and stopped the fight prematurely.

Chael won that fight.
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