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Old 05-01-2013, 05:33 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Yeah, I watched that Cro Cop fight and CC vs Barnett just a few days ago again for fun.

Wanderlei got into Mirko's head and not in a good way. LOLZ! He was pissed and an animal against Wanderlei that fight.
That was most likely the highlight of Cro Cop's career besides winning the Grand Prix. Wanderlei had not been stopped since 1998 and that fight was in 2006. Wanderlei only lost two decisions against Hunt and Arona. His reign of terror was legendary and that fight showed the "true soldier" in Crocop cuz you could see in his eyes for the first time in any sanctioned fight that he wanted to kill em and hurt em badly. On my list of top 10 beatdowns along with Wandy vs Rampage and maybe even Wandy vs Stann.

Might as well add my list of top 10 beatdowns with a finish. Heck I should start a thread.

10.) Goodridge vs Paul Herrera (first time I've seen a crucifix with deadly results.)
9.) Vitor vs Tank Abbott vs Wandy vs everyone early in his career.
8.) Brock vs Mir II (Mir was a mess and it was never close.)
7.) LHW title holder vs Shogun for the title (He made one of the toughest fighters tap out. That warrants a nod even though he's still a sob...haha.)
6.) GSP vs Serra/Penn (Grudge matches, one of the last time he was able to finish.)
5.) Fedor vs everyone basically
4.) Chuck vs Tito
3.) Wandy vs Rampage I and II
2.) Crocop vs Wandy
1.) Anderson Silva vs Forrest Griffin (This was an absolute flawless performance getting hit only once. Anderson landed 13-26 shots and Griffin 1-26.)

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Would mention Shogun vs Hendo, but nobody got finished amazingly enough.
Cain vs Brock
Overeem vs Brock
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Old 05-01-2013, 09:22 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The Chael vs. thread I created was just insane with the number of people picking Chael to beat these top 10 LHW. Remember you jumping on me for picking Hendo over Chael? Like that was somehow some kind of major upset.

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Maybe we'll do 1,000,000. This is easier than taking candy from a baby, and I like you... I'd feel bad taking your credits on such an easy bet
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:59 AM   #33 (permalink)
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I agree, but Chael has a ton of fans on here that overrate the shit out of him. Half of them are just an act.
Only half?
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Old 05-02-2013, 05:15 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:06 AM   #35 (permalink)
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It's hardly an act, and I hardly overrate him. Losing to Jones and Anderson doesn't make Chael Sonnen a scrub. If you take away his losses to Jones and Anderson, the man is 12-1 since 2006. I'm telling you right now... he would easily outwork and defeat Wand Silva. There is no question.

Acting like Chael will have a hard time taking old man Wand down because Mike Bisping couldn't do it is a laugh riot. Seriously... 2,000,000 credits. You and me. Though you may as well just give them to me now.

Chael loses to the top two P4P best, and he's overrated. Wand KOs Brian Stann, and he's on a career resurgence. And people say Sonnen fans buy into the hype
I've seen you say this once before (or was it the same thread?) anyway just had to ask how you figure that? he lost to Filho in 2007 and Maia in 2009.
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I've seen you say this once before (or was it the same thread?) anyway just had to ask how you figure that? he lost to Filho in 2007 and Maia in 2009.
The filho fight I think was a bad stoppage, sure chael yelled in anguish but he never tapped. He defiantly lost to maia though so that would be your 1 loss.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:01 AM   #37 (permalink)
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Chael knows he's not touching the belt so I'm glad he's hanging around for a few more paychecks. He's a hell of a promoter so everyone should look to main event him.
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:22 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I've seen you say this once before (or was it the same thread?) anyway just had to ask how you figure that? he lost to Filho in 2007 and Maia in 2009.
That's actually my error. I misquoted an article. If you take away championship losses, Sonnen is 12-1 since 2006. With Maia being his sole non-title fight loss.

The point was that Sonnen isn't some bum. Considering how great everyone thinks Silva and Jones are, people certainly use those losses to label Chael a hack.
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1 million sounds good. Still allows me to do the OU Challenge that I like to do if I do lose.

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That's actually my error. I misquoted an article. If you take away championship losses, Sonnen is 12-1 since 2006. With Maia being his sole non-title fight loss.

The point was that Sonnen isn't some bum. Considering how great everyone thinks Silva and Jones are, people certainly use those losses to label Chael a hack.
I can see why you would think that about some people but that is not the case with me. IMO more people overrate him for his performance vs Spider in the 1st fight. I have said many times I consider him a top 5 MW and even as high as #3. Which is far from a scrub. I just don't think he anywhere close to being a ranked LHW. But IMO Chael has done nothing to suggest he is. Ever.
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Well, he was technically 30 seconds away from winning the LHW championship
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