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onip69 05-03-2013 02:46 PM

Mike Tyson explains why GSP and UFC are succeeding where Boxing has failed
 
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Mike Tyson explains why Georges St. Pierre and UFC are succeeding where Boxing has failed

By Jesse Holland on May 3 2013, 12:31p  @MMAmaniaNews 18

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Georges St. Pierre isn't trying to become a rap star. Join me in a collective brow wipe.


Turns out "Iron" Mike is a big fan of mixed martial arts (MMA).

But unless you just started following the sport this morning, you probably already knew that. It's not unusual to see the former heavyweight boxing champion milling around the set of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF), like he was for season 17 earlier this year.

Personally, I was surprised he didn't have words for coach Chael Sonnen, who described Tyson as a "protected" and "fake" champion back in the day (see his full critique here). Nevertheless, "Kid Dynamite" has been impressed with the "passion" of MMA and thinks Boxing could pick up a few pointers.

From his conversation with ESPN:


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"[MMA} is something you have to start when you're 12 or 13. It has to be a passion. That's the problem with boxing: There's no passion. People want to be record producers, rappers. In MMA, you see that passion. Georges St. Pierre, this is all he wants to do. That's why he's so successful. I think there's room for both [MMA] and boxing, but boxing just has too many black eyes. It doesn't have a good image. In MMA, even though people are fighting, they have a good image. Very few of them get into tragic troubles where they're beating people up and stuff."
Despite his high praise, Tyson still believes UFC fighters aren't getting paid what they deserve.

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/5/3/429...ufc-boxing-mma

Dtwizzy2k5 05-03-2013 02:49 PM

He's right about the image problem. Boxers have the image of being thugs from the ghetto who can't speak intelligently and are only in it for the money whereas MMA fighters have more of a martial arts image of respect, discipline, and fighting for the love of it.

Roflcopter 05-03-2013 02:50 PM

Adrien Broner was literally recorded eating out a stripper on stage.

Not to mention that asshole Brandon Rios, extremely unprofessional...makes fun of Freddie Roach's disease....classless.

These people are just unreal.

No_Mercy 05-03-2013 08:06 PM

He's been through it all. Good to see his tour doing well.

I dunno why he doesn't train people. LEGIONS of students would go to his gym or hire him to train em.

Ape City 05-03-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Roflcopter (Post 2035826)
Adrien Broner was literally recorded eating out a stripper on stage.

Not to mention that asshole Brandon Rios, extremely unprofessional...makes fun of Freddie Roach's disease....classless.

These people are just unreal.

Broner also made it rain with $15 000 while "rapping" over a song. Just embarrassing.

dlxrevolution 05-04-2013 12:03 AM

MMA is pretty clean cut compared to boxing. There's some BS that happens in MMA (Mainly the UFC), but it's understandable because of the direction MMA is trying to take. Boxing is deeply rooted in corruption, controversy, and BS. I feel like boxing is more of a political warfare than an actual competitive sport.

_CaptainRon 05-04-2013 11:22 AM

Zuffa also did a nice of job exposing people to a lot of their top talent, and tons of great fights on basic cable. But Chael's comment of being protected is true of all pro-boxers that have a high level of skill. People don't really start to pay attention to you until you're 25-0 with 20 ko's. That's a lot of fights to commit to a fighter who you don't know if will pan out to be a champ or just a journeyman. The road to the UFC can be a lot shorter, and if a guy is 12-2 and has a couple wins in the UFC, you know he's fighting top guys in the world, not cans to continue to pad his record.

Voiceless 05-04-2013 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by _CaptainRon (Post 2037258)
Zuffa also did a nice of job exposing people to a lot of their top talent, and tons of great fights on basic cable. But Chael's comment of being protected is true of all pro-boxers that have a high level of skill. People don't really start to pay attention to you until you're 25-0 with 20 ko's. That's a lot of fights to commit to a fighter who you don't know if will pan out to be a champ or just a journeyman. The road to the UFC can be a lot shorter, and if a guy is 12-2 and has a couple wins in the UFC, you know he's fighting top guys in the world, not cans to continue to pad his record.

Yes, but that's because there are less good MMAist around than there are good boxers, in particular internationally. A couple of years ago it wasn't that much of a big deal if a fighter lost 2 in a row, today it's much more dangerous for him to get cut. That's because the number of talent is growing. I guess MMA is heading in a similar direction as boxing.

dave-stjohn 05-04-2013 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Voiceless (Post 2037266)
Yes, but that's because there are less good MMAist around than there are good boxers, in particular internationally. A couple of years ago it wasn't that much of a big deal if a fighter lost 2 in a row, today it's much more dangerous for him to get cut. That's because the number of talent is growing. I guess MMA is heading in a similar direction as boxing.

I think the two biggest places that boxing is failing where as mma isn't, is in the number of belts and the lack of champions fighting top contenders. The sheer number of organizations and the number of weight classes makes for far too many champs and dilutes the talent pool. I can't remember the last time a champion boxer in one of the top org. fought a top contender (Pacman was the latest) even a top 5 guy would be a stretch. MMA has the UFC as the top dog and then there's Bellator and maybe MFC which are triple A at best. I couldn't even begin to name all the boxing org. but suffice it to say, there's a bunch. Could you imagine the crapfest that would happen if Dana tried to sell a fight between Anderson and another MW making his octagon debut at 5 and 4? With boxing that's business as usual and their fans are fine with that which is amazing to me.


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