Mike Tyson explains why GSP and UFC are succeeding where Boxing has failed - MMA Forum - UFC Forums - UFC Results - MMA Videos
UFC The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) is a U.S.-based mixed martial arts organization, recognized as the largest MMA promotion in the world. The UFC is headquartered in Las Vegas, Nevada and is owned and operated by Zuffa, LLC. This promotion is responsible for solidifying the sport's postion in the history-books. UFC is currently undergoing a remarkable surge in popularity, along with greater mainstream media coverage. UFC programming can now be seen on FOX, FX, and FUEL TV in the United States, as well as in 35 other countries worldwide.

Reply

Old 05-03-2013, 01:46 PM   #1 (permalink)
Bantamweight
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Canada, West Coast
Posts: 684
onip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledgeonip69 Is True Champion Of Knowledge
Mike Tyson explains why GSP and UFC are succeeding where Boxing has failed

Quote:
Mike Tyson explains why Georges St. Pierre and UFC are succeeding where Boxing has failed

By Jesse Holland on May 3 2013, 12:31p  @MMAmaniaNews 18

Stay connected for news and updates



Georges St. Pierre isn't trying to become a rap star. Join me in a collective brow wipe.


Turns out "Iron" Mike is a big fan of mixed martial arts (MMA).

But unless you just started following the sport this morning, you probably already knew that. It's not unusual to see the former heavyweight boxing champion milling around the set of The Ultimate Fighter (TUF), like he was for season 17 earlier this year.

Personally, I was surprised he didn't have words for coach Chael Sonnen, who described Tyson as a "protected" and "fake" champion back in the day (see his full critique here). Nevertheless, "Kid Dynamite" has been impressed with the "passion" of MMA and thinks Boxing could pick up a few pointers.

From his conversation with ESPN:


Quote:
"[MMA} is something you have to start when you're 12 or 13. It has to be a passion. That's the problem with boxing: There's no passion. People want to be record producers, rappers. In MMA, you see that passion. Georges St. Pierre, this is all he wants to do. That's why he's so successful. I think there's room for both [MMA] and boxing, but boxing just has too many black eyes. It doesn't have a good image. In MMA, even though people are fighting, they have a good image. Very few of them get into tragic troubles where they're beating people up and stuff."
Despite his high praise, Tyson still believes UFC fighters aren't getting paid what they deserve.

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/5/3/429...ufc-boxing-mma
onip69 is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 05-03-2013, 01:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
Welterweight
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,194
Dtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level nowDtwizzy2k5 is on another level now
He's right about the image problem. Boxers have the image of being thugs from the ghetto who can't speak intelligently and are only in it for the money whereas MMA fighters have more of a martial arts image of respect, discipline, and fighting for the love of it.
Dtwizzy2k5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 01:50 PM   #3 (permalink)
Banned
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 7,939
Roflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By AllRoflcopter Is Beloved By All
Adrien Broner was literally recorded eating out a stripper on stage.

Not to mention that asshole Brandon Rios, extremely unprofessional...makes fun of Freddie Roach's disease....classless.

These people are just unreal.
Roflcopter is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 07:06 PM   #4 (permalink)
BEWARE OF THE PENGUIN!
 
No_Mercy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Posts: 9,969
No_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF MaterialNo_Mercy Is Future HOF Material
He's been through it all. Good to see his tour doing well.

I dunno why he doesn't train people. LEGIONS of students would go to his gym or hire him to train em.
__________________
Marcus Aurelius: Tell me again, Maximus, why are we here?
Maximus: For the glory of the Empire, sire.

Baked, not fried... the healthy choice.

No_Mercy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 07:49 PM   #5 (permalink)
It's a league game, Smokey
 
Ape City's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Planet of the Apes
Posts: 6,797
Ape City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings SystemApe City Is Beyond A Rankings System
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roflcopter View Post
Adrien Broner was literally recorded eating out a stripper on stage.

Not to mention that asshole Brandon Rios, extremely unprofessional...makes fun of Freddie Roach's disease....classless.

These people are just unreal.
Broner also made it rain with $15 000 while "rapping" over a song. Just embarrassing.
__________________
mad props: Toxic
Ape City is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-03-2013, 11:03 PM   #6 (permalink)
Featherweight
 
dlxrevolution's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 1,497
dlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level nowdlxrevolution is on another level now
MMA is pretty clean cut compared to boxing. There's some BS that happens in MMA (Mainly the UFC), but it's understandable because of the direction MMA is trying to take. Boxing is deeply rooted in corruption, controversy, and BS. I feel like boxing is more of a political warfare than an actual competitive sport.
dlxrevolution is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2013, 10:22 AM   #7 (permalink)
Bantamweight
 
_CaptainRon's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Dallas, Texas, USA
Posts: 643
_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all_CaptainRon is a name known to all
Zuffa also did a nice of job exposing people to a lot of their top talent, and tons of great fights on basic cable. But Chael's comment of being protected is true of all pro-boxers that have a high level of skill. People don't really start to pay attention to you until you're 25-0 with 20 ko's. That's a lot of fights to commit to a fighter who you don't know if will pan out to be a champ or just a journeyman. The road to the UFC can be a lot shorter, and if a guy is 12-2 and has a couple wins in the UFC, you know he's fighting top guys in the world, not cans to continue to pad his record.
__________________
"Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man."
_CaptainRon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2013, 10:32 AM   #8 (permalink)
Welterweight
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Neo-Babylon
Posts: 2,449
Voiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By AllVoiceless Is Beloved By All
Quote:
Originally Posted by _CaptainRon View Post
Zuffa also did a nice of job exposing people to a lot of their top talent, and tons of great fights on basic cable. But Chael's comment of being protected is true of all pro-boxers that have a high level of skill. People don't really start to pay attention to you until you're 25-0 with 20 ko's. That's a lot of fights to commit to a fighter who you don't know if will pan out to be a champ or just a journeyman. The road to the UFC can be a lot shorter, and if a guy is 12-2 and has a couple wins in the UFC, you know he's fighting top guys in the world, not cans to continue to pad his record.
Yes, but that's because there are less good MMAist around than there are good boxers, in particular internationally. A couple of years ago it wasn't that much of a big deal if a fighter lost 2 in a row, today it's much more dangerous for him to get cut. That's because the number of talent is growing. I guess MMA is heading in a similar direction as boxing.
__________________
Voiceless is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-04-2013, 05:44 PM   #9 (permalink)
Flyweight
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Eastern Wa.
Posts: 351
dave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of lightdave-stjohn is a glorious beacon of light
Quote:
Originally Posted by Voiceless View Post
Yes, but that's because there are less good MMAist around than there are good boxers, in particular internationally. A couple of years ago it wasn't that much of a big deal if a fighter lost 2 in a row, today it's much more dangerous for him to get cut. That's because the number of talent is growing. I guess MMA is heading in a similar direction as boxing.
I think the two biggest places that boxing is failing where as mma isn't, is in the number of belts and the lack of champions fighting top contenders. The sheer number of organizations and the number of weight classes makes for far too many champs and dilutes the talent pool. I can't remember the last time a champion boxer in one of the top org. fought a top contender (Pacman was the latest) even a top 5 guy would be a stretch. MMA has the UFC as the top dog and then there's Bellator and maybe MFC which are triple A at best. I couldn't even begin to name all the boxing org. but suffice it to say, there's a bunch. Could you imagine the crapfest that would happen if Dana tried to sell a fight between Anderson and another MW making his octagon debut at 5 and 4? With boxing that's business as usual and their fans are fine with that which is amazing to me.
dave-stjohn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On

VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc SEO by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios