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post #21 of 68 (permalink) Old 04-23-2007, 04:51 PM
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Bisping is an investment at this point. He is one of the first guys to come off the show that everyone immediatly thought deserved to be there. Fans like him, He is good for business. Bottom line, whether he escaped, or the fight was fixed, it was a close call. And he didnt just roll right over Shaefer either. I think we all agree, Elvis and Eric are not at the top of the food chain. So what happens when Bisping has to fight some one with that we know is good. How long until that happens? I feel like right now, Jardine would murder him. I think Tito would beat him, because Bisping will throw that body kick, Tito will catch and and put him on his back. I dont think I even need to mention Chuck. Rashad, Rampage. I think Bisping should fight Forrest. And then start fighting these other guys.
I have so much to say. First if it was fixed which it sure as hell was not. Do you think he would have even put him in the Kimura???????????????? Yea I don't think so either. Then if it was fixed do you think Elvis would have taken a beating like that for the entire first round??????????? I don't think so either. And if it was fixed do you think Elvis would have dropped Bisping with that knee and then with no hesitation gotten right on top and start throwing????????????? Nope me neither. Finally guys get out of Kimuras all the time. Tight ones and ones that are not so tight. If your exhausted and you have a guy that has the stamina and strength of Bisping you could easily lose that hold especially if your dead tired. Which Elvis was.

Also Jardine i really don't see him working Bisping. Every one acts like Jardine dominated forrest. go back and watch that fight. Jardine lost every exchange except for the one that put forrest on his ass. He got one shot through. So Jardine isnt exactly a superior fighter. I think Jardine Vs Bisping would be very close and I would love to see it. I think Bisping would most likely lose to Rashad, tito, Rampage. But Jardine would lose to Bisping i would pick him to win that fight. 3rd round TKO.
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i saw it and i stood up and was like omg sinosic won. but then bisping miraculously got out of it. man that kimura looked ****ing deep i have no idea how bisping survived. even the lowliest bjj white belt could have finished it once it was locked in like that. i dono. whatever


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I'm not a Bisping fan and think he's overrated. But, it just looks like Sinosic was tired and pretty much just completely gassed and gave up. Bisping was losing the standup against Sinosic. Bisping seems to be a real nice guy but im unimpressed and don't think he's on the level of Rashad, Jardine or Forrest yet. He seemed too wild in that fight but I'm sure he also had some extra pressure on him being in his hometown and having his family there. He's good but still has plenty of room for improvement. I do want to see him fight someone that will test him to see what all he's got in him.
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I also noticed the kimura and I was certain the fight was over. I was like "DAMN, ELVIS WHAT A COMEBACK!" But the fight just kept going. Then like you said Bisping got on top and the fight was called before he did any real damage. It did seem fishy to me at the time, I'm glad someone else noticed it. Elvis was really tired though. Elvis sucks.
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Originally Posted by j.farrell
I know there are a few guys on here that train. To those guys, I pose this question. How many times have you had a Kimura that deep and someone got out of it? Something just didnt seem right to me about that. All I kept saying was how the hell did he get out of that? And they didt show the escape. It almost seems to me (and Im not one of these big consiracy theory guys) like Dana talked to Elvis before the fight, and said hey look, if you get him in trouble at anytime DO NOT finish him. It just seemed like Elvis let him out of it to me. I gotta say, after seeing Bispings leg flying in the air from the leg kicks, and seeing him eat that knee. Im not sure how great he actually is. At some point he is going to have to fight some one that we know is good. I think Jardine would ear him apart after that preformance. Just my opion. Thoughts?
my concerns were more for the fact that he should have been dropping elbows alot more then punches.....also we didnt need to see a riot if we lost
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not a fixed fight. just a crappy beat up fighter who was too gassed to do anything. the UFC got Bisping for bargin, and even as an ambassador him losing doesn't hurt them as much as Cro Cop. Huge contract and now all the US fans know is he got kicked in the head by someone else they don't even know. anyways back on topic.... Bisping would lose to any top level figher so his next go will be with some b-level fighter like lambert.
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No way was it fixed, Elvis didnt have enough energy to finish him off

btw: Bisping would KO Jardine
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Bisping's striking looked awful in this fight he better do some serious work on it.

BUT yeah Elvis was beaten looked very tired and even layed there after it was stopped.
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elvis is tough, if i am correct i think the only other time elvis was truly finished in a fight was when he fought forrest

michael will fight either the winner of hector ramirez vs forrest griffin or the winner of james irvin vs thiago silva(this fight should be really good, thiago is out of the chute boxe camp and he's undefeated) lyoto might be fighting keith jardine if he gets past houston alexander, at least thats what i think will happen
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I think they just turned elvis into a steping stone for the new fighters.

Bisping will really have to step it up strikeing or else he will get destroyed by The dean of mean or rashad evens.

As far as the conspericy gos I dont know elvis did look like something was wrong and I mean he is this big bjj guy ad did nothing on the ground. So its valid but probly not so.

The only reason I can think why they would fix it is because it was his home town and that would probly start a riot if he lost.

I have seen alot of fights in the ufc and the only one that I am convinced was fixed was severn vs gracie.

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