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Old 05-14-2013, 12:45 PM   #31 (permalink)
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May have to do with the fact that he is 38 years old who would move a weight class to go fight a guy hailed as going to be the best ever...who is the biggest LHW and in his prime.

I want to see this fight as a Silva fan. There is no excuse. Anderson stepping in the cage at age 38 or 39 to face the phenom that is Jon Jones at not even a catchweight, would be more legendary than anything GSP has done in his career.
I don't think age is affecting Anderson all that much. I'm certain he's slowed down a tad, but to coin a phrase, the man ages like a fine wine. He's had one lacklustre performance in the past however many years, and he even managed to win that. He's taken so little damage that he's aging far better than most.

As per your cheap GSP jab, at least Georges has never crumbled in the face of injury. Poor Andy hurts his ribs and almost loses a title fight. GSP tears his groin/fights with a flu and injured achilles and still dominates.

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Get my point yet? Silva is no more outgunned then any of these fighters, the one difference is that he is in another league skill wise. Machida and Belfort gave Jones issues, Rampage and Rashad were able to survive into later rounds. Silva would give Jones the fight of his life, that is if he doesn't beat him quickly...

And for those saying Jones looks thicker, that his arms and legs although skinny weigh more then most other fighters. Somewhere you are incorrect otherwise there is no way he would make 205 yet he does fairly easily and walks around at only 225. Jones has a large extremely lanky frame, it gives him some advantages but it doesn't make him a HW size fighter. He is no different then guys like Corey Hill, Pablo Garza etc build wise. He is successful because he has great wrestling and ground and pound and well rounded enough in other aspects.
Machida is the only person you listed that is around Silva's weight.

Jones isn't that slim outside of his legs. Your comparisons are poor; those guys are cutting down below their natural weight classes and losing muscle they would normally have. Bones has a very natural build for his size. He could bulk up and go to heavyweight but that really isn't how his body is supposed to be he would either have to use steroids or get on a very aggressive weight training program and diet to put that on and keep it on.

I want the fight to happen and I think everyone acknowledges that Andy is the biggest threat to Bones outside of the best HWs. That doesn't change the circumstances around the fight and that Silva shouldn't be favored even though he is the most threatening person Bones will have fought.

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As per your cheap GSP jab, at least Georges has never crumbled in the face of injury. Poor Andy hurts his ribs and almost loses a title fight. GSP tears his groin/fights with a flu and injured achilles and still dominates.

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Old 05-14-2013, 01:02 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I don't think age is affecting Anderson all that much. I'm certain he's slowed down a tad, but to coin a phrase, the man ages like a fine wine. He's had one lacklustre performance in the past however many years, and he even managed to win that. He's taken so little damage that he's aging far better than most.

As per your cheap GSP jab, at least Georges has never crumbled in the face of injury. Poor Andy hurts his ribs and almost loses a title fight. GSP tears his groin/fights with a flu and injured achilles and still dominates.

I guess we know who the true warrior is
I'm not saying Anderson is anything close to Muhammad Ali at the end of his career. But at 38 and possibly 39 he defiantly isn't the athlete he once was. And against a monster athlete like Jones...that sort of hurts. Either way 38 is 38. He is still great at that age unlike guys like Penn, Hughes, and so on. But 38 is still rather old. Especially when facing a bigger man who is in his physical prime. It isn't an excuse. It is just reality.

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Anderson actually looks like he's been putting on some bulk.

He might be preparing for a fight with Jones.
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I bet they sign the fight and promo these pictures the day after Anderson beats Weidman
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They are not even close in size.

If it helps, try to Imagine Jones trying to make 185 from that size..LOL... You feel Me...
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Why does everyone talk about weight as if they're scientists? Bone density, muscle mass, time of day, meal or no meal in belly... you don't know these things, you can't talk about an athlete's weight from photos. Weight varies a lot more than size during a day.

Jones is much bigger than Silva, just as he's been bigger than all his UFC opponents to date. Weigh in photos look sort of competitive but come fight night, he dwarfs opponents and is noticeably stronger than them. I believe there is a lot of science behind Jones making the weight as he gets older, but fair enough, he has made the lifestyle changes and sticks to them. Can't say the same for the other top LHW's, except Gustaf and Machida. Lyoto always comes in under 205lb nowadays with his consistent lifestyle, whereas Jones still has to cut some...

Silva is the guy to beat Jon, bar several heavyweights, but as has already been said, he gets the moral victory just by stepping in the cage. He doesn't fight at LHW regularly, has not optimized his body for that weight, and would be fighting a young Champ who brings unprecedented strength and wingspan to the division. You could say the same about Belfort and Sonnen, but they had a lot less to lose.
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You know that Chael is a compulsive liar right?

Bones said a while back that he changed his diet to make the cut easier and was cutting from around 220-225 I believe. Who knows how much he weighs now but I would guess it is probably around that and not over 230.

It is good to see that people are actually accepting reality now on Andy's fighting weight and not that 230 nonsense that is thrown around which he only weighs when he is out injured eating nothing but pudding and big macs. I have been saying for a couple years now here that he weighs between 195-205 when he fights at MW and people just disregarded it and kept acting like he was some massive MW. Okami and Chael are heavy MWs Andy is about average.

You know that Chael was giving his opinion right??? You cant lie with something like that.

Yeah i once heard Jon Jones say that he walks around 220. Which is bogus. He says those things because people say he only wins due to size. Its obvious that he is much bigger then Chael and Chael walks around 230. So give me a break with this 220 nonsense.
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I think the size difference is negligible. It looks like an identical build with a height difference.


If they fought, Silva's timing and angles would win him the fight handily IMO.
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