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Silva and bones picture, side to side (both are in shape)

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i dunno he looks considerably bigger to me

i think its just that im used to anderson being atleast equal size or bigger than his opponants
 
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Jones looks bigger then everyone he fights. It is all because of his extremely long legs and arms. Look at his torso, Silva actually has a longer torso, his hips are noticeably lower then Jones' but his shoulders are only slightly lower. Thickness wise Silva looks to be thicker as well. The only significant difference is that Jones' legs and arms are 3-4 inches shorter(and skinnier as well).

Jones' frame and reach do give him advantages, they are pretty much what makes him such a special fighter. All I am stating is weight wise these guys aren't that different whereas some people believe there would be a 20-30 lb weight difference between them on fight night.

This fight if it happens comes down to skill and natural abilities. If Jones wins it is because of his freak body build and wrestling. If Silva wins it is because of his striking, experience and jiu jitsu.
 
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I dont know man

If you look at their arms its Jones who looks considerably bigger.
10Lbs difference MAX between the two. Clearly Bones is Taller/ Longer and Anderson is thicker. It boggles my mind when people say "Bones is a HW" or "Bones is so much bigger" than all his opponents. He's LONGER than everyone. Most LHW walk around 20lbs heavier than 205...........like Bones.
 
#6 ·
yeh i see what you mean

ive been calling for this fight forever

i think about 2 years ago i said it is the most relevant fight in mma

most ppl disagreed and said it doesnt make sense etc.

seeing this photo makes me crazy for this fight!!!
 
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- Jones is taller
- Silva has a thicker torso
- Jones has longer arms
- Silva has thicker legs (just based on calfs)

I'm not seeing much of a size difference, not such that it should impact the outcome if these two were to fight. Although, I wish the TV wasn't blocking the veiw so we could actually get a complete comparison.
 
#14 ·
:laugh:

Bones is much bigger then Silva.

Andersons last fight at LHW he weighed in at 202lbs. No weight cutting and no weight put on after the weigh ins. By comparison, Jones weighs well over 220lbs on fight night.

That people can dismiss giving up 20 pounds to Bones as if its nothing? Fecking absurd.
 
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Anderson fought Bonnar on relative short notice. Still in his Middle weight cut. His other 2 LHW fights were well planned he he did have to cut weight. Now im not an MMA reporter, doctor, Andersons trainer or any of that. But throughout my MMA fanship ive heard consistantly Anderson walks around in the 210-220 range and Bones has weighed 232 at his heaviest when he was 3 fights into his fighting career. You think hes put weight on since then??? No.

10 pounds max ehh??? Didnt realize you were so good at predicting peoples weight from pictures. Especially when 1 guy looks way more then 10 pounds heavier :laugh:

Sounds to me like you WANT there to be a max 10 pound difference between the two. Hell Chael Sonnen who said he walks around 230 (Dont quote me on that) said that he believes that Jones weighs alot more then him. And he spent time with him in person so i think his word carries a bit more weight then your ability to judge peoples weight from pictures. Now i dont know what the difference in weight Anderson and Jones have and i wont pretend to know. But im willing to bet its more then 10 pounds.

The only thin part on Jon Jones is his legs. His upper body is quiet big. Then you add his lengthy frame and you get a heavy guy.

It may be +/- a pound but my point being is just because Jones towers about everyone doesnt mean he's some diuretic taking HW struggling to make LHW. He IS A LHW. A long one. And of course Jones is more defined. I 6'4 guy making 205 cant afford body fat.
 
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Ddog0587;2052298[B said:
]10Lbs difference MAX between the two.[/B] Clearly Bones is Taller/ Longer and Anderson is thicker. It boggles my mind when people say "Bones is a HW" or "Bones is so much bigger" than all his opponents. He's LONGER than everyone. Most LHW walk around 20lbs heavier than 205...........like Bones.
10 pounds max ehh??? Didnt realize you were so good at predicting peoples weight from pictures. Especially when 1 guy looks way more then 10 pounds heavier :laugh:

Sounds to me like you WANT there to be a max 10 pound difference between the two. Hell Chael Sonnen who said he walks around 230 (Dont quote me on that) said that he believes that Jones weighs alot more then him. And he spent time with him in person so i think his word carries a bit more weight then your ability to judge peoples weight from pictures. Now i dont know what the difference in weight Anderson and Jones have and i wont pretend to know. But im willing to bet its more then 10 pounds.

The only thin part on Jon Jones is his legs. His upper body is quiet big. Then you add his lengthy frame and you get a heavy guy.





 
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10 pounds max ehh??? Didnt realize you were so good at predicting peoples weight from pictures. Especially when 1 guy looks way more then 10 pounds heavier :laugh:

Sounds to me like you WANT there to be a max 10 pound difference between the two. Hell Chael Sonnen who said he walks around 230 (Dont quote me on that) said that he believes that Jones weighs alot more then him. And he spent time with him in person so i think his word carries a bit more weight then your ability to judge peoples weight from pictures. Now i dont know what the difference in weight Anderson and Jones have and i wont pretend to know. But im willing to bet its more then 10 pounds.

The only thin part on Jon Jones is his legs. His upper body is quiet big. Then you add his lengthy frame and you get a heavy guy.
You know that Chael is a compulsive liar right?

Bones said a while back that he changed his diet to make the cut easier and was cutting from around 220-225 I believe. Who knows how much he weighs now but I would guess it is probably around that and not over 230.

It is good to see that people are actually accepting reality now on Andy's fighting weight and not that 230 nonsense that is thrown around which he only weighs when he is out injured eating nothing but pudding and big macs. I have been saying for a couple years now here that he weighs between 195-205 when he fights at MW and people just disregarded it and kept acting like he was some massive MW. Okami and Chael are heavy MWs Andy is about average.
 
#21 ·
Jones is bigger than Silver in every aspect.

That said, with enough time to prepare Silver could perhaps bulk and be much heavier than the 202 he was against Bonner but I'd still expect Jones to have the significant weight advantage.
 
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May have to do with the fact that he is 38 years old who would move a weight class to go fight a guy hailed as going to be the best ever...who is the biggest LHW and in his prime.

I want to see this fight as a Silva fan. There is no excuse. Anderson stepping in the cage at age 38 or 39 to face the phenom that is Jon Jones at not even a catchweight, would be more legendary than anything GSP has done in his career.:laugh:
 
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Jones shouldn't be allowed to fight any LHW's. He just looks bigger then them all so it isn't fair...















Get my point yet? Silva is no more outgunned then any of these fighters, the one difference is that he is in another league skill wise. Machida and Belfort gave Jones issues, Rampage and Rashad were able to survive into later rounds. Silva would give Jones the fight of his life, that is if he doesn't beat him quickly...

And for those saying Jones looks thicker, that his arms and legs although skinny weigh more then most other fighters. Somewhere you are incorrect otherwise there is no way he would make 205 yet he does fairly easily and walks around at only 225. Jones has a large extremely lanky frame, it gives him some advantages but it doesn't make him a HW size fighter. He is no different then guys like Corey Hill, Pablo Garza etc build wise. He is successful because he has great wrestling and ground and pound and well rounded enough in other aspects.
 
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Get my point yet? Silva is no more outgunned then any of these fighters, the one difference is that he is in another league skill wise. Machida and Belfort gave Jones issues, Rampage and Rashad were able to survive into later rounds. Silva would give Jones the fight of his life, that is if he doesn't beat him quickly...

And for those saying Jones looks thicker, that his arms and legs although skinny weigh more then most other fighters. Somewhere you are incorrect otherwise there is no way he would make 205 yet he does fairly easily and walks around at only 225. Jones has a large extremely lanky frame, it gives him some advantages but it doesn't make him a HW size fighter. He is no different then guys like Corey Hill, Pablo Garza etc build wise. He is successful because he has great wrestling and ground and pound and well rounded enough in other aspects.
Machida is the only person you listed that is around Silva's weight.

Jones isn't that slim outside of his legs. Your comparisons are poor; those guys are cutting down below their natural weight classes and losing muscle they would normally have. Bones has a very natural build for his size. He could bulk up and go to heavyweight but that really isn't how his body is supposed to be he would either have to use steroids or get on a very aggressive weight training program and diet to put that on and keep it on.

I want the fight to happen and I think everyone acknowledges that Andy is the biggest threat to Bones outside of the best HWs. That doesn't change the circumstances around the fight and that Silva shouldn't be favored even though he is the most threatening person Bones will have fought.

As per your cheap GSP jab, at least Georges has never crumbled in the face of injury. Poor Andy hurts his ribs and almost loses a title fight. GSP tears his groin/fights with a flu and injured achilles and still dominates.

I guess we know who the true warrior is :cheeky4:
He crumbled to the fist of a dwarf.
 
#37 ·
Why does everyone talk about weight as if they're scientists? Bone density, muscle mass, time of day, meal or no meal in belly... you don't know these things, you can't talk about an athlete's weight from photos. Weight varies a lot more than size during a day.

Jones is much bigger than Silva, just as he's been bigger than all his UFC opponents to date. Weigh in photos look sort of competitive but come fight night, he dwarfs opponents and is noticeably stronger than them. I believe there is a lot of science behind Jones making the weight as he gets older, but fair enough, he has made the lifestyle changes and sticks to them. Can't say the same for the other top LHW's, except Gustaf and Machida. Lyoto always comes in under 205lb nowadays with his consistent lifestyle, whereas Jones still has to cut some...

Silva is the guy to beat Jon, bar several heavyweights, but as has already been said, he gets the moral victory just by stepping in the cage. He doesn't fight at LHW regularly, has not optimized his body for that weight, and would be fighting a young Champ who brings unprecedented strength and wingspan to the division. You could say the same about Belfort and Sonnen, but they had a lot less to lose.
 
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This fight would be so amazing, so epic, that I must say: sometimes I don't even know if I really want it to happen.
If they fight one will win and the other lose. One remains a legend, the other a merely mortal. If the fight is not close, ends fast, we will rediscuss all the loser have done e people will minimize his conquers. One scenario, thats all.
But...
If they don't fight (and I dont think they will), we will discuss forever what an amazing fight it would have been. Thousands of scenarios will come to the discussions, every detail will be analised forever.
So, if they fight, the magical aura ends.
 
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