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Nate Diaz feels no remorse for '***' tweet,

2K views 35 replies 24 participants last post by  Rusty 
#1 ·
"No, I'm not surprised (UFC suspended Diaz). They have made it pretty clear that they are not going to tolerate any kind of controversial statements. I don't think they have made it clear enough as to exactly what they are and what they are not. I'm still confused on this code of conduct thing, but I know one exists somewhere. But I wasn't shocked that they came out the way they did. This is just my personal opinion, I don't want people jumping all over me for this and hating on me again, but, I think yesterday or the day before yesterday, Joe, whatever his name is, Benavidez, whatever. He tweets out a picture where he is butt naked with a watermelon in between where his junk is supposed to be and two guys in singlets behind him and the tweet says, "just doing my part to support wrestling" or freeing wrestling. I mean, to me, that's, I don't know what message he was trying to send and I don't know how supporting wrestling involves being naked with a watermelon between your legs and two guys in singlet's behind you, but one could argue that can get some people offended. And nothing's going on with him. So, I don't know how this thing is applied. Obviously the slur that Nate used was not intended for what people are thinking. I'm sure it qualifies as something you shouldn't say, but, I just don't know how it's applied. Different people do different stuff. I think Ronda Rousey has made some comments that were kind of questionable. I'm not trying to throw people under the bus, I'm just saying, people that are out there making their opinions known and I guess just randomly are more bold than the others or maybe there is some kind of Twitter hate meter, if it goes up to high you start to punish, I don't really know, it really doesn't matter, it is what it is."


"Nate doesn't feel remorse for what he said. I don't feel remorse for what he said. I don't feel remorse for defending what he said or elaborating on what he said. Because it was not a homophobic statement. It was not intended to offend homosexuals. We weren't even talking about homosexuals. One can debate the multiple uses of this term. We can sit here and debate in the English language, there's a lot of words that mean a lot of different things, but whatever. As it is, it wasn't intended to be used the way people tried to twist the way it was being used. So therefore, what does he have to feel bad about? The fact that [Caraway] shouldn't gloat over other person's issues and try to kiss ass to make a point?

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/5/20/4...r-nate-diaz-questions-ufc-code-of-conduct-mma

TBH i would not either. Its obvious he was not using the word *** to insult gay people. Hell im willing to wager that 99% of the times that word is used these days it has nothing to do with gay people. People are just overly sensitive.
 
#4 ·
Yeah I agree. I throw the word '***' about all the time.

Usually when somebody is being stupid.. i.e dude stopping being a ***.

Or because I smoke, and people in the UK call cigarettes, ***s. ie. Got a spare *** mate?
 
#6 ·
I get that the UFC is protecting themselves and want to appeal to all communities. But geez, these guys can't even speak their mind. What if Nate said the same thing for a local radio interview? Does that get punished? Where and when is he allowed to speak his mind if he can't do it on his own social media? It gets ridiculous. Dana has used controversial words and phrases for years.....and he is the face of the company.....talk about double standard.
 
#7 ·
And on it rolls...

Of course we all use terms like f@g in social environments. Nothing wrong with that in my book. We all mostly live in free countries.

But there's a big fat line when it comes to these things. And im telling you right now, that anybody crossing that line is a total idiot. Because calling my brethren a f@g because hes being a bit of a pansy about something, is one thing. Going on twitter and calling somebody a f@g with malicious intentions is another. Especially when said Twitter account is clearly representing your billion dollar employer. eg:



I'm usually totally supportive of the Diaz brothers. But in this argument, Nate is being a fecking knob. Everybody is getting hung up over the political correctness of it. But I can say this with all confidence: If *any* of you were in charge of a billion dollar entertainment business, and one of your popular employees wrote what Diaz wrote, on their twitter site, with the company logo plastered all over it? Would you really simply shrug your shoulders. Let out a gentle "meh" and say you use that word all the time? No. You would shut your mouth, suspend the fecker and say sorry.
 
#9 ·
I completely understand. I call everybody a ***. People I hate, people I love, people I respect, people I detest, I've called everybody a *** at some point. Most people use the word as a way to call someone stupid or weird. However, that doesn't mean that the word isn't generally known as a derogatory name for a group of people. ***, in the US, was originally, and still is used to put down homosexuals. From what I've personally witnessed, it's still a very disrespectful, infuriating name to call a queermo.
 
#11 ·
He was using it as a homosexual slur. Whether or not he actually thinks the person is gay the intent to slander as such is clear. That wasn't the jocular form that was the malicious form. When you are using *** to attack someone you are using it to call him a homosexual in a negative way. He was calling him less than a real man which is how it is used towards actual homosexual men.

It doesn't change my opinion of him though I already knew he was dumb as hell.
 
#14 ·
LOL, don't let him ruin your day. :wink03:

One-dimensional. Hard to call a guy who easily boxed up Cerrone and Gomi. And who has many subs in the UFC...one-dimensional...2 dimensional. But not even close to 1-dimensional.

THe Diaz bros bring out the hate in people. It is funny.
 
#16 ·
This sounds like a little kid trying to knit pick his way out of something he's knows is wrong. This whole it was not intended to be a slur against gays holds about as much weight as using the N word and saying it wasn't used as a racial slur. You're saying someone did something sleezy or low class just like a *** would, if that fact is lost on Diaz then it's a good thing he fights for a living instead of something more technical, say like a crash test dummy.
 
#17 ·
Most people agree that the word he used doesn't even mean what it once did.

You must have never listened to hip hop music if you think the N word is never used without a racial slur meaning attached to it.

Dana White should have suspended himself when he used the word. Or the multiple other words he has in the past. And he is the face of the company...

Suspend Nate all you want. I just laugh because we live in such a pansy society these days. It is comical.

Diaz bros have made decent money off the UFC and can retire and teach BJJ for the rest of their lives if they want. They have almost made a brand out of their name with all the controversy.

A champ drives drunk and totals an expensive car his boss gave to him while riding around young girls (doesn't he have a wife?) Lucky to not kill someone. Yet no suspension or anything handed down. Nate not even a contender anymore, says phag and he is almost canned and people are outraged. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

Can't make this shit up.
 
#19 ·
I'm in agreement with Sooj.
I personally think it's ridiculous that Diaz got suspended for using the word but what do you expect? The UFC is now a mainstream sport and it's employees/athletes are held to higher standards of public behavior.
 
#27 ·
The word "***" rarely means "homosexual" anymore. Anyone who actually thinks Diaz was insulting him by calling him a homosexual has completely lost touch with the evolution of the word/how society generally uses it these days.

I personally know a gay dude that throws *** around as if he's throwing candy at a parade. The word as changed and evolved, only seriously hardcore gay activists think "***" is a hate term these days, and they need to grow up and see the world in general doesn't care about that word anymore, it has lost almost all if it's homosexual meaning.
 
#28 ·
*** has never meant homosexual. It is a derogatory term to describe homosexuals and Diaz is only using it because of the negative connotations. If our culture had a history of negativity, prejudice and hate towards pancakes, people would want to call others a pancake who they do not like. It's not a matter of literally calling someone a pancake, but that pancakes are hated enough that it is insulting to refer to one as such. It's really easy to brush it aside, but there is a reason certain words are used in certain situations, such as is commonly done and the example of which Diaz presents. The only thing that has changed or evolved is people accepting a word used to identify with negativity, prejudice and hate to describe more then those the negativity, prejudice and hate was originally prescribed for.
 
#35 ·
What I find funny is that people who are so against the word "***" won't accept it being redefined for like the 10th time into something else. If you try to tell them that most of the world doesn't even use that word as a gay hate word anymore, they will fight tooth and nail to say it is.

Instead of just embracing a hate word being morphed into something completely different, thus removing the hate for gays out of the word, they fight for it to stay around. Let change for the 10th time for crying out loud and be happy that in the future it won't be a hate word.
 
#36 ·
Sounds to me like Benavidez was the party calling someone homosexual. Posting a nude photo, with dudes, posing as wrestlers in the background is less homoscared?

I call people phags all the time and use the N word often when I'm praising my employees for a job well done.
http://weknowmemes.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/mah-*****.jpg

All the time. No one gives a shite.
 
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