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View Poll Results: Should fighters be penalized for marijuana?
Yes (state your reason) 25 34.25%
No (Weed is not a performance enhancing drug, whats the problem?) 48 65.75%
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post #11 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 12:23 AM Thread Starter
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nope..its illegal...play by the rules...

...also i heard an interesting arguement that while it dulls your sence of pain..it also slows reaction time.

im not against weed guys...its just if u play by a sport...u gotta play by the rules.

i cant drink more then 2 beers and drive...u cant smoke and fight
that has to be the worst comparison ive ever heard

first off drinking and driving leads to car accidents and killing people

smoking pot and fighting = a higher chance of losing (nick diaz won)

no, pot does not get rid of pain, its a relaxer, but it does not get rid of pain.
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no but it shouldnt get out in the public

they should keep mma professional

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that has to be the worst comparison ive ever heard

first off drinking and driving leads to car accidents and killing people

smoking pot and fighting = a higher chance of losing (nick diaz won)

no, pot does not get rid of pain, its a relaxer, but it does not get rid of pain.
You missed his point. The rules (law) say you can't drink and drive, so you don't, unless you're willing to pay the consequences. The rules (state athletic commission) say you can't test positive for certain substances and fight, so you don't, unless you're willing to pay the consequences.
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you missed the point, the no drinking and driving law is there to protect people

the marijuana testing law is there for no reason, also, fighters get penalized more for pot then anabolic steroids, diaz got 6 months and his victory turned to NC

stephan bonnar tests positive for anabolic steroids, gets 3 months.
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you missed the point, the no drinking and driving law is there to protect people
...and the banned substances policy is there to protect fighters. It's a very straightforward analogy. I'm not sure how you're missing it, unless your avatar betrays you.

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the marijuana testing law is there for no reason,
It's there for the same reason the no Benadryl policy is there, but you're not complaining about that one, are you.

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also, fighters get penalized more for pot then anabolic steroids, diaz got 6 months and his victory turned to NC

stephan bonnar tests positive for anabolic steroids, gets 3 months.
Different state = different athletic commission policy. Also, some state commissions, like California, rule on a case by case basis. Having a lawyer present or a good sob story can affect the ruling. Either way, you wouldn't be punished at all if you simply followed the rules you promised to follow.

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first off i agree the fact weed is illegal is crap. thank god here in canada it is all but ignored in most personal use cases. But anyways it's right, if test postive for drug then shoudl be suspended/fined simply due to fact that shouldn't have drugs in system. performance enhancing or not. he gives up his right to be stoned all the time when he choses to become a pro athelete. I don't agree with IOC suspending everytime guy takes an asprin but weed is for now illegal, and because of that shouldn't be allowed. Takes like a week to get outta system so if get caught then you seriously deserve to get caught
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...and the banned substances policy is there to protect fighters. It's a very straightforward analogy. I'm not sure how you're missing it, unless your avatar betrays you.

It's there for the same reason the no Benadryl policy is there, but you're not complaining about that one, are you.

Different state = different athletic commission policy. Also, some state commissions, like California, rule on a case by case basis. Having a lawyer present or a good sob story can affect the ruling. Either way, you wouldn't be punished at all if you simply followed the rules you promised to follow.
protect the fighters from...?

Symptoms of a Benadryl overdose include extreme sleepiness, confusion, weakness, ringing in the ears, blurred vision, large pupils, dry mouth, flushing, fever, shaking, insomnia, hallucinations, and possibly seizures.

pot is the least lethal 'drug' in the world.
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i think they should be fined yes... but i dont agree with changing the result of the fight
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protect the fighters from...?
His opponent, for one. Also, marijuana use causes elevated heart rate and increased oxygen requirements (we don't want a heart attack in the ring, do we?), as well as reflex and regulatory issues. It also effects the emotional state of the user.

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Symptoms of a Benadryl overdose include extreme sleepiness, confusion, weakness, ringing in the ears, blurred vision, large pupils, dry mouth, flushing, fever, shaking, insomnia, hallucinations, and possibly seizures.
Good thing they don't let fighters fight under the influence, huh?

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pot is the least lethal 'drug' in the world.
No one said any of these drugs were lethal.
Of course, getting in the ring while on any of these drugs certainly could be, but at the very least, it puts the fighters at an increased risk of injury, which is exactly what the athletic commissions exist to prevent.
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Also, for those that think this is a US issue. The athletic commissions' drug policies are derived from the World Anti-Doping Code, which specifically bans cannabinoids.

http://www.wada-ama.org/rtecontent/d...07_List_En.pdf
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