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View Poll Results: Should fighters be penalized for marijuana?
Yes (state your reason) 25 34.25%
No (Weed is not a performance enhancing drug, whats the problem?) 48 65.75%
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post #21 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 02:49 AM
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Originally Posted by dopesmoker
whats the medias problem with pot? hell, whats the governments problem with pot? If someone tests positive for pot they should not be penalized at all, they shouldnt even be testing for pot.
Why even test for pot? It's not a performance enancer. Maybe you can test for it after a hot dog eating contest.
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post #22 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 02:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jasvll
You missed his point. The rules (law) say you can't drink and drive, so you don't, unless you're willing to pay the consequences. The rules (state athletic commission) say you can't test positive for certain substances and fight, so you don't, unless you're willing to pay the consequences.
exactly...fighting for a living is a privlage
as is driving

i cant drive stoned or drunk or under Rx meds for that why..if its against the rules..should a fighter not be penilized.

your argueing for legalization (which is the worst thing that would ever happen to pot from a quality standpoint).

thats not the point... the point is should someone be penilized for breaking the rules...and the answer is yes.

and actually pots considered a hallucinogen if im not mistaken (no idea why I just read it somewhere)
its not like i dont/havent just saying if your getting paid to do a job...abide by the laws surrounding it

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post #23 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 05:43 AM
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Although it doesn't affect the fight it's still an illegal substance. Im not sure if the fight record should be changed but they should be punished by the UFC and/or Nevada state athletic commision
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post #24 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 07:25 AM
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Whether these fighters like it or not they are starting to become this upcomming generations heroes. I have actually heard 10-13 year old children talking about how cool Chuck Liddel is, or how awesome it was that Randy Couture won, or the one that made me cry - how he wanted to be tall like Tim Sylvia so he could punch people but they couldn't hit him.

Lets be honest about a few things, our generation got the shaft when it came to heroes. Our fathers heroes secrets were kept by the press because people read the nice stories over the bad ones, but not our generation. Almost every hero we have had has somehow let us down. Even Jordan got busted for banging chicks all accross this great nation. We know every dirty secret about everyone who we idolize at some point. Am I saying that because Michael Irving did coke that somewhere someone else is too? No. What I am saying is that it does ruin the experience of having a hero when you see him getting hauled off to jail, or on tv having to apologize for the crap he did.

These fighters are the up and coming heroes whether they like it or not, so they should start acting like it. I would love it if they all had the attitudes of Randy Couture, Cro Cop, Forrest Griffen, Chuck Liddel, people who love what they do, don't get in trouble for stupid crap, and manage to be a role model for children on how to behave in life. I'm not talking about fighting, but how to talk to people, how to respect each other, how even after a huge fight with someone to go over and shake their hand afterwards.

Sorry for the rant, but to sum it up Pot is illegal and the last thing we need this next generation to go through is what we went through. They do not need to see Diego Sanchez win 19 straight fights and then get arrested for pot possesion (I know he didn't, but you get my point).
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post #25 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 07:59 AM
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Agree with the post above. Just because we have teenagers on this forum that think it's cool to smoke week doesn't meen its legal and everyone should do it. UFC wants to be a professional sport and looked apoun as a professional sport. To do that you need to penalize your fighters for somking weed. It's done in every professional sport in the USA. I know some 17 year old kid with the name dopesmoker, potsmoker, i love weed, whatever your name is with pics of weed, are gonna get mad at me but maybe if you mature up and realize that weed is illegal and these fighters are role models to kids, then maybe you would understand.

Besides the role model fact, Dana white said himself he wants the UFC to be considered a professional sport and not penalizing your fighters for smoking weed is going to make that a huge step backwards. I don't care if you potsmokers on this site think its cool and shouldn't be legal, IT'S ILLEGAL.

Also btw is there anyways i can take back my vote, I accidentally clicked No and my computer lagged, which some how caused it to cast my vote before I could've changed.
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post #26 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 08:00 AM
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yeah, let's penalize some guy for getting stoned before a fight... obviously, whoever is trying to go ahead with this has never been high...

whiskey, racism, money, grease, twinkie's, guns.....yep lol thats about it
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its against the law, yes it shold be punishable.....

its like saying.. "well baseball didnt test or say Steroids were illegal, so during that time it was ok"....... no it wasnt because it was still a law in america that steroids were illegal....

weed may not be a performance enhancing drug... but its still an illegal drug! is Cocaine a performance enhancing drug? no, but no one argues about Melvin Guillard if he gets suspended.

Rules are Rules..... you break them, you pay!! plain and simple!
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post #28 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 09:03 AM
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you guys make good points.

however, i don't think the penalties should be any longer/more severe than they would be for steroids.

sorry i'm not more articulate in some of my recent posts. it gets tiring using my prissy english-major speak all the time. plus I've started to think that it looks incredibly silly on this forum.
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post #29 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 09:09 AM
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weed is illegal so ya it shouldnt be allowed
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post #30 of 45 (permalink) Old 04-25-2007, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by swpthleg
however, i don't think the penalties should be any longer/more severe than they would be for steroids.
I agree, I think all illegal substances should have the same time/punishment accross the board.
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