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View Poll Results: Who you got in this awesome HW fight?
Mir 21 32.31%
Barnett 44 67.69%
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post #101 of 120 (permalink) Old 06-03-2013, 12:32 PM
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How is Frank Mir not smug? That is like saying KJ Noons isn't smug.
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post #102 of 120 (permalink) Old 06-03-2013, 12:48 PM
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of course he is... that's kind of the appeal for me. but then again josh is also smug, so it's kind of a smug off!
Dont get me wrong... I like smug. But only when the fighter is awesome. Mir is not awesome.
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post #103 of 120 (permalink) Old 06-20-2013, 02:30 PM
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Barnett opened at -230. He is now -270.

Mir is the sizable underdog.
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I hope the line keeps moving for the fight more money for me when Mir wins.


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Last I checked the line was back down to -230 and has settled. About the kind of line I figured this would be.

Barnett is the rightful favorite in my eyes. Mir isn't that good. Barnett is 5x tougher with much better cardio and Mir really has no glaring advantage.
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-250 Barnett and +200 Mir sounds perfect for this fight to me.
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Last I checked the line was back down to -230 and has settled. About the kind of line I figured this would be.

Barnett is the rightful favorite in my eyes. Mir isn't that good. Barnett is 5x tougher with much better cardio and Mir really has no glaring advantage.
other than being the better grappler and striker as well as having more power? Barnett has the wrestling to choose his poison but I can't see him winning either game. Josh's best bet is to take Frank down and hold on for dear life cause its the only chance he has.




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other than being the better grappler and striker as well as having more power? Barnett has the wrestling to choose his poison but I can't see him winning either game. Josh's best bet is to take Frank down and hold on for dear life cause its the only chance he has.
Oh God, you overrate Mir so much. He is not a better grappler...Grappling includes wrestling. And Barnett is good enough to stay out of submissions.

His only chance...lol. Yea that is why he is over a 2 to 1 favorite. You are one of those guys living off the fact he dropped the very overrated Kongo who had his hands down scared to be taken down. Keep a hold of that one tight! Mir's striking is God awful.

Come back to eat crow once the very average Frank Mur gasses and wilts.
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Only thing Barnett has on Mir is his chin.. definitely better takedowns too but worse jitz so the grappling still goes to Mir.. i have a feeling this is going to be a lot closer fight than everyone is thinking...

Head-butting fists and KOing the air is not effective striking.
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I feel we have a lot of UFC fanboys trying to hold onto Mir's career.

Mir's reverse Kimura win over Nog has really clouded people's judement. Yes he is dangerous with subs. But before that...look at his sub wins over the last few years. He rocked Kongo then choked him out...easy sub. He kneebar'd the Greenest fighter in UFC history in Lesnar. Who gave him a leg. He sub'd Hardonk....a kickboxer.

If Nog just keep GnPing to victory, no one is this crazy about Mir's subs over kickboxers and a WWE star. And Mir's striking is terrible. He got straight LIT UP by Nog last time they fought with ZERO head movement.

Barnett can out last Mir, he could take him down and do work, he could beat him on the feet. Hell he can easily hold Mir against the cage, as Mir sucks in that position. Barnett has a much better chin as well.

Cardio/Chin means a ton in a HW fight. And people are underestimating catch wrestling in favor of the flashier BJJ of Mir. People seem to forget Sakaraba using catch sub'd Gracie's. Catch wrestling is more useful in MMA than BJJ is. Not sure why people under-estimate Josh's skills on the ground. They see some amazing bone snapping subs from Mir and they get all giddy like a 12 year old.

Mir will not sub Josh. Take it to the bank. And being on bottom doesn't win fights.
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