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View Poll Results: Who you got in this awesome HW fight?

Mir 21 32.31%
Barnett 44 67.69%
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Old 05-30-2013, 01:15 AM   #11 (permalink)
 
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I don't get what has everyone so convinced that Barnett has this in the bag? Mir lost to JDS and Cormier yes but this is also the same guy who knocked out and submitted Big Nog. In his last 5 years Josh's biggest win IMO is Jeff Monson. While I am a big Monson fan the truth is if he can't take you down then he has little to offer in the way of offense. Mir has a better guard than anyone Barnett has fought ever. taking down and submitting some one dimensional strikers with little take down defense impresses me little and hardly makes me believe your gonna have much for a guy who is a superior striker and has probably the second most dangerous guard in the UFC HW division.

Josh does not have that one punch knock out power he is a control fighter and I believe he is out of his league here. I don't just think Mir will win I expect him to win impressively by finishing Josh. Brett Rogers was a C level fighter and Sergei was a B rate fighter in Pride and is lucky if he is a still that. I don't know what everyone is using to base this idea that Barnett has this on most of his best wins in MMA were over strikers with little ground game.

Mir's win over Kongo was just as impressive as anything Josh has done in the last 4 years and in that time no matter how ugly Mir did KO CroCop and win a decision over Roy Nelson as well as the previously mentioned submission and Ko of Big Nog (who a split decision over was the biggest win of Josh's career and also won where he lost the rematch)
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Mir by submission. Barnett isn't even a top 5 grappler in the UFC HW division.
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Old 05-30-2013, 04:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Mur by split....maybe?
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Mirs big chance to give his career one more shot. If he loses this he should retire, unless he just wants to take more beatings for cash. I hope he fights a bit smarter then he did against cormier.
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I don't get what has everyone so convinced that Barnett has this in the bag? Mir lost to JDS and Cormier yes but this is also the same guy who knocked out and submitted Big Nog. In his last 5 years Josh's biggest win IMO is Jeff Monson. While I am a big Monson fan the truth is if he can't take you down then he has little to offer in the way of offense. Mir has a better guard than anyone Barnett has fought ever. taking down and submitting some one dimensional strikers with little take down defense impresses me little and hardly makes me believe your gonna have much for a guy who is a superior striker and has probably the second most dangerous guard in the UFC HW division.

Josh does not have that one punch knock out power he is a control fighter and I believe he is out of his league here. I don't just think Mir will win I expect him to win impressively by finishing Josh. Brett Rogers was a C level fighter and Sergei was a B rate fighter in Pride and is lucky if he is a still that. I don't know what everyone is using to base this idea that Barnett has this on most of his best wins in MMA were over strikers with little ground game.

Mir's win over Kongo was just as impressive as anything Josh has done in the last 4 years and in that time no matter how ugly Mir did KO CroCop and win a decision over Roy Nelson as well as the previously mentioned submission and Ko of Big Nog (who a split decision over was the biggest win of Josh's career and also won where he lost the rematch)
He also got his butt kicked by Shane Carwin and was on his way to getting KTFO by an over-the-hill Big Nog. Let's not pretend Mir dominated that fight. I like Frank, but he's shot. Josh will retire him, and once again, those who doubt the SF boys will be proven wrong.
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My first thoughts were how is Mir going to win this. Then I remember Mirko pulled off some weird submission on Barnett while in the guard.

It should 75% Barnett and 25% Mir. Barnett should just keep it standing. He could easily get caught up in an armbar.
Mirko definitely never submitted Josh with anything other than punches in the last fight, which is still a weird one to me. Josh yelling"oh shit" and rolling over and tapping was just strange. The time the fight ended in guard was the first and it was because Barnett hurt his shoulder taking Cro Cop down.

This is interesting for me. I think Barnett could win but Frank training at Jackson's makes me think otherwise. This is either a clinch fest or a real short fight either way.

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He also got his butt kicked by Shane Carwin and was on his way to getting KTFO by an over-the-hill Big Nog. Let's not pretend Mir dominated that fight. I like Frank, but he's shot. Josh will retire him, and once again, those who doubt the SF boys will be proven wrong.
What?

Barnett is a former UFC champion who fought in the UFC before and more times than Strikeforce. How is he a strikeforce boy? Hell half of his Strikeforce fights were when the UFC owned it.
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Mirko definitely never submitted Josh with anything other than punches in the last fight, which is still a weird one to me. Josh yelling"oh shit" and rolling over and tapping was just strange. The time the fight ended in guard was the first and it was because Barnett hurt his shoulder taking Cro Cop down.

This is interesting for me. I think Barnett could win but Frank training at Jackson's makes me think otherwise. This is either a clinch fest or a real short fight either way.

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What?

Barnett is a former UFC champion who fought in the UFC before and more times than Strikeforce. How is he a strikeforce boy? Hell half of his Strikeforce fights were when the UFC owned it.
Oh, stop being so God damn literal. His last four fights were under the SF banner. And he hasn't fought in the UFC in an eternity. Let me have my fun, and quit being such a Buzz Killington.
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I consider Barnett more of a Pride guy if anything..

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