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Old 04-26-2007, 11:37 AM   #1 (permalink)
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No Fighter's Were Drug Tested at UFC 69 & 70?

Seems like a bit of a shady deal to me. Fighters need to be held accountable, and not testing them doesn't help anything.

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Steve Seivert over at the Houston Chronicle is reporting that out of the combined 38 fighters on the UFC 69 and UFC 70 cards, not one of them was tested for banned or illegal substances.

That’s because in both situations the UFC was responsible as the “sanctioning body” to administer the tests. And, as Seivert points out, “It did not.”

Of course, in states such as Nevada and California, the drug testing is performed by the state athletic commissions.

But, apparently in The Lone Star State, that’s not the case.

Here’s a snip from a Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation spokesperson:

“We have the authority to order drug testing, but did not for that event. Our rules didn’t anticipate a structure like this (where there is no sanctioning body for an event).”

Doesn’t make much sense if you ask me.

Here’s what UFC Vice President of Regulatory Affairs, Marc Ratner, had to say:

“It was my understanding that they were testing the main event. I think maybe there was some confusion. Maybe they felt we were the sanctioning body and promoter all in one. When we went in there, we went strictly as the promoter. We can’t be judge and jury. We would have no authority to discipline the fighters.”

There seems to be a lot of finger pointing, with no one wanting to take responsibility for the apparent “oversight.”

And a rather large one, considering the positive tests that have been returning lately such as Thiago Alves, Diego Sanchez, Nick Diaz (PRIDE FC) and Stephan Bonnar to name just a few.

Making this situation even more alarming is that not one fighter on the “Nations Collide” card in Manchester, England, wasn’t required to submit a urine sample. In short, UFC 69 wasn’t just an isolated incident.

Why?

Another snip from Ratner:

“We were ordering tests, but found we had no legal means to do it. They had no commission there. There was no drug testing there.”

I’m not even going to try and wrap this up in my own words, because Seivert has already done a fine job.

Here’s a mash of his analysis:

“In its current form, drug testing in mixed martial arts doesn’t work, and the lack of uniform testing could further undermine a sport that’s still outlawed in more than half the states in the U.S. … The UFC has pushed a lot of right buttons in helping to legitimize mixed martial arts and gain a level of respect for the sport’s fighters that was unthinkable just a few years ago. However, the promotion needs to do better with the drug-testing issue before it does more damage to the sport. The major professional sports leagues test their athletes for drugs. Why can’t the UFC do the same?”
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Old 04-26-2007, 11:51 AM   #2 (permalink)
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The major professional sports leagues test their athletes for drugs. Why can’t the UFC do the same?
Is this guy joking? The problem is that the major sports leagues are doing their own testing. That's why so many athletes are finding themselves testifying in front of Congress.

The state athletic commissions need to follow Nevada and California's lead and put themselves in charge of drug testing. Having the promotion regulate itself is a conflict of interest.
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The state athletic commissions need to follow Nevada and California's lead and put themselves in charge of drug testing. Having the promotion regulate itself is a conflict of interest.
Is it a conflict of interest if the promotion asks the states to do so? Or if the promotion puts it in the hands of a third party? The leagues I thought did "random" testing which is total BS anyway. Nothing's random anymore.

As far as England goes I would assume that falls under what is legal in England would be legal?

UFC 69 really bugs me cuz Diego fought in that one and was just coming off a suspension for the mary jane after a fight night, Sherk I believe. So are they catering to him now??
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Is it a conflict of interest if the promotion asks the states to do so? Or if the promotion puts it in the hands of a third party? The leagues I thought did "random" testing which is total BS anyway. Nothing's random anymore.
That's I want. Take it out of the hands of anyone who has a financial stake in a fighter's passing or failing a test. The state athletic commissions are about as close to that as we can get, since the state does generate revenue by having events held in their boundaries.

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As far as England goes I would assume that falls under what is legal in England would be legal?
Well, if they don't have a true sanctioning body, which the article seemed to suggest, it seems anything goes until someone checks.

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UFC 69 really bugs me cuz Diego fought in that one and was just coming off a suspension for the mary jane after a fight night, Sherk I believe. So are they catering to him now??
He served his full suspension and paid his fine.
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:23 PM   #5 (permalink)
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thats probably why diego didnt do so well in his fight, was off the pot for to many months (joking)
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Old 04-26-2007, 12:31 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Theres so many legal supps. that act like the juice. I wouldn't give a damn if they never tested. Because the way I see it, If someone wants to use something then they will. I'm sure theyre are way more fighters using things that havent been caught. And as far as pot goes, my god, marijuana is not worse than steroids!!!!!!
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you know alot of the fighters take steroids, most of em are smart enough stop, unlike bonnar
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you know alot of the fighters take steroids, most of em are smart enough stop, unlike bonnar
I've been meaning to ask, what strain is that in ur avy pic?
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:28 PM   #9 (permalink)
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been asked by a few members here in pm's

im not sure of the strain exactly, my buddy sold me clones, used them for outdoor, he doesnt even know the name of the strain, even though hes been growing it for years

just some bud thats been in my area for a long time

now indoor is a different question, bought some germinated white widow seeds, same with northern lights, got em in niagara falls been cloning ever since.
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