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Old 06-11-2013, 05:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hendo thinks UFC needs random, Olympic style drug testing

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Legitimate TRT user Dan Henderson pushing for Olympic-style drug testing in MMA

A cloud of suspicion hangs ominously over the heads of athletes in the UFC,
their accomplishments viewed by many through the lens of performance-enhancing
drug usage.

The use of PEDs is believed to be widespread throughout
professional and high-level amateur sports, but even clean athletes
whose accomplishments are the result of their athletic ability, hard
work and perseverance, are tainted by the mess.

Little is done to stop the usage in combat sports. Postfight drug
testing catches some users, but most experts say it nabs only those who
don't understand how to mask their usage.

In fighting, there is no regularly scheduled regimen in which an
athlete has to report his or her whereabouts to a testing agency in
order to be randomly checked within 24 hours.

So, every time a fighter wins, there is plenty of suspicion that it
involved artificial assistance. UFC middleweight contender Vitor
Belfort is the latest to feel the backlash
.





Dan Henderson dodges a punch thrown by Lyoto Machida. (USA Today)

Since it was learned he's been on TRT, Belfort has scored several highlight-reel
knockouts and become a legitimate title contender.
He's been pressed about the issue so much that he suggested someone
beat up the reporter
asking about it, a thoughtless move for which
he later apologized.

UFC light heavyweight Dan Henderson, who has had an exemption to use testosterone
replacement therapy since 2007, said he believes there is a heavy
amount of PED usage in the fight game.

"I think there is a decent amount [of PED usage in MMA]," said Henderson,
a member of the 1992 and 1996 U.S. Olympic wrestling teams who will fight
Rashad Evans in the main event of UFC 161 at the MTS Centre in Winnipeg
on Saturday. "Just like at the top level of any sport, there is a decent
amount of it. Guys look for that edge."


Henderson is one of a handful of fighters who have been given a
therapeutic use exemption (TUE) to partake in testosterone replacement
therapy (TRT). Henderson was diagnosed with hypogonadism, leading to his TUE

There are a number of causes of hypogonadism, or low testosterone, including
previous steroid usage. Dr. Jonathan Gelber, an orthopedic surgeon who
writes the Fight Medicine blog
estimated that approximately 1 percent of the population between 18 and
40 who have not used anabolic steroids would be hypogonadal.

"It's a rare phenomenon," Gelber said of hypogonadism in people roughly
the age of UFC fighters.

Henderson has been granted a TUE or has at least been permitted to
use TRT by athletic commissions in Nevada, Ohio, Georgia, Tennessee,
Missouri, Illinois and California, according to a document he submitted
to the Nevada Athletic Commission when applying for a TUE for the
since-canceled UFC 151 event last September.

For his license application for UFC 151, Henderson submitted several
test results of his testosterone levels he had done at Quest
Diagnostics, all of which came in the normal range. The reference range
is 250-1100, meaning anything less than 250 is low and greater than
1,100 is high.

Henderson submitted results taken in West Hills, Calif., while he was
using TRT. He scored 338 on July 23 and 413 on Aug. 3, both in the
normal range.

In 2010, he quit taking TRT for two months and scored 168.

Dr. Karen Herbst, an endocrinologist at the University of San Diego
with a specialization in testosterone issues in men, reviewed Henderson's
blood tests from 2007-2011. She wrote, "It is my conclusion that Dan Henderson
is suffering from hypogonadism with chronically low testosterone levels
and is currently receiving the appropriate course of treatment for his
condition."

Henderson hasn't shied from answering questions about
his testosterone usage, and said he wholeheartedly supports random,
unannounced testing, such as is done in the Olympics.


It's an expensive proposition, and UFC management has consistently
opposed it, but it is the only way to rid the sport of PED usage.





Dan Henderson winds up to punch Lyoto Machida. (USA Today)

Even then, some will still get away with using PEDs, but random
testing will dramatically reduce the percentage of cheaters who succeed.


"I would welcome random drug testing for everybody, not just for a few,"
Henderson said. "Do it for everybody in the sport, and that would help to
clean up the sport quite a bit. Threatening them with the idea that someone
could knock on your door without any notice and make you pee in a cup would
make a big difference."


That would make things safer for fighters who are facing someone who
is cheating, but Gelber said random testing would also benefit those who
cheat. He said there are plenty of risks to those who abuse
testosterone.

"It doesn't just affect the muscles," he said. "It can affect the
prostate. It can affect the heart. It affects blood cells. These are all
things that can be affected. ... When you inject this stuff or take it
via pills, it doesn't only affect the skeleto-muscular system. You can
get prostate cancer or develop an enlarged prostate.

"You can affect the heart, the liver. The blood gets what we call
more viscous, and that can lead to clots. It's just not a super pill you
can take and get stronger and win fights. It has a lot of risks that go
along with it."

Gelber said athletes use PEDs because of the stakes, and because they have
a proven track record of success.

Using steroids isn't going to turn an average couch potato into a contender
for a UFC championship overnight, but it can be the difference between
winning and losing for the elite athletes already in the sport.

He pointed to the Lance Armstrong case as an example.

"The guys who were not taking anything, they were world class
cyclists, but they would fall to the back of the pack," Gelber said.
"They were at the top of the world to begin with. So, even within that
small subset of athletes, those elite athletes who do abuse banned
substances can have a significant advantage.

"It's not a golden ticket, especially in the UFC, where one lucky
punch can lead to a knockout, but [using PEDs] has demonstrably been
proven to create an advantage."

Henderson, 42, has never failed a drug test. He's made many
contributions to the sport, and is one of its iconic fighters. He
defeated Mauricio "Shogun" Rua at UFC 139 in a bout many consider the
greatest in the sport's history, and he's won numerous titles in
different weight classes.

But if he can help lead the charge for random unannounced testing, it
may turn out that his greatest accomplishment in the sport came as a
result of what he did outside the cage.
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Hendo, a guy on TRT calling for random drug testing...
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Hendo, a guy on TRT calling for random drug testing...

What do you think is wrong with that?
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Hendo is right. Fighters are getting away with using PEDs and finding ways to bypass the current testing but I think TRT users should also be more scrutinised for there TRT levels outside fights.
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I have zero problem ppl using any therapy to bring their hormones to normal levels. I don't know if excess of hormones usage would be beneficial during training if you have to adjust the levels for the fight. From an ignorant stand point I would believe it would be easier to adapt your body to normal levels the whole time: training + fight.
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I have zero problem ppl using any therapy to bring their hormones to normal levels. I don't know if excess of hormones usage would be beneficial during training if you have to adjust the levels for the fight. From an ignorant stand point I would believe it would be easier to adapt your body to normal levels the whole time: training + fight.
Extremely beneficial. Same as cycling anything else.
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What do you think is wrong with that?
Because he is a cheat, just like any other TRT user in the UFC. Just because he has a but of paper saying he is allowed to cheat, doesnt make him any less of a cheat than someone who does it behind closed doors in my eyes.


Never in all my years of sports watching have I ever heard of top level athletes 'needing' TRT to compete because of low testosterone levels. It's total and utter bullshit.
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Because he is a cheat, just like any other TRT user in the UFC. Just because he has a but of paper saying he is allowed to cheat, doesnt make him any less of a cheat than someone who does it behind closed doors in my eyes.


Never in all my years of sports watching have I ever heard of top level athletes 'needing' TRT to compete because of low testosterone levels. It's total and utter bullshit.
Well then you are ignorant because for the last forty years Baseball/Basketball/Football players have all used "drugs" to perform. Cortisone shots, stimulants, pain killers, soma muscle relaxants, and many other questionable practices are used in sports. Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruths record using stimulants and Babe Ruth was likely on Coke when he played.

TRT is a political issue pure and simple and if the rules say you can do it, it isn't cheating. And quite frankly you are the problem....see what we should be focused on is not "TRT" we should be focused on surprise testing when fighters are cycling. But you see that's work that costs money and it's a whole lot easier to throw out TRT and Pot to divide up the fan bases than have actual Athletic commissions do actual work. TRT is the "gay marraige, abortion, gun control" of MMA a distraction meant to take in your outrage over that instead of the real issues of the sport.
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Well then you are ignorant because for the last forty years Baseball/Basketball/Football players have all used "drugs" to perform. Cortisone shots, stimulants, pain killers, soma muscle relaxants, and many other questionable practices are used in sports. Hank Aaron broke Babe Ruths record using stimulants and Babe Ruth was likely on Coke when he played.
Hold up, don't get yourself carried away. I am not ignorant, far from it in fact. I was talking specifically about the TRT replacement to counteract low Test levels. I never once mentioned not using drugs to perform, or cortisone shots or any of that. I know all of that stuff has been going on for years. I was talking specifically about TRT. I stand by my comment that outside of MMA, I don't think I've ever read about, or heard of any pro athlete relying on it to perform.


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TRT is a political issue pure and simple and if the rules say you can do it, it isn't cheating. And quite frankly you are the problem....see what we should be focused on is not "TRT" we should be focused on surprise testing when fighters are cycling. But you see that's work that costs money and it's a whole lot easier to throw out TRT and Pot to divide up the fan bases than have actual Athletic commissions do actual work. TRT is the "gay marraige, abortion, gun control" of MMA a distraction meant to take in your outrage over that instead of the real issues of the sport.
How am I the problem? Because I don't believe any athlete should be given an exemption to artificially raise their testosterone levels when in 99% of cases, their test levels are probably low because of previous steroid abuse? Chael, Reem, Vitor, Hendo, I could go on and on.

In my opinion, you stop the TRT exemptions first and foremost, THEN you aggressively start testing all of the athletes. It's not about TRT being a distraction or whatever but it IS a problem and it IS something that I could never see being allowed in other sports. It's a loop hole and it needs to be dealt with.
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How am I the problem? Because I don't believe any athlete should be given an exemption to artificially raise their testosterone levels when in 99% of cases, their test levels are probably low because of previous steroid abuse? Chael, Reem, Vitor, Hendo, I could go on and on.

In my opinion, you stop the TRT exemptions first and foremost, THEN you aggressively start testing all of the athletes. It's not about TRT being a distraction or whatever but it IS a problem and it IS something that I could never see being allowed in other sports. It's a loop hole and it needs to be dealt with.
No it doesn't, guys using TRT to get normal hormonal levels is not the same thing as fighters roiding up for a training camp. One is cheating and the other is a policy you don't agree with. This is a political issue, The Commissions don't want to work, they don't want to deal with science so you discredit any fighter that does something that a layman doesn't agree with.
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