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Old 06-18-2013, 09:36 AM   #31 (permalink)
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9 pro fights. 0 top five wins. Layoff due to injury.

This isn't like when a rising fighter in Jon Jones got to fight for the title 6 weeks after beating Bader. Weidman has no steam coming into this fight, and is highly inexperienced in the first place. He's big, got good grappling, mixes it up well. So what? If he'd beat Bisping or Vitor 6 weeks ago and was 100% healthy, on a high and diving right into this fight, the upset might be a tempting bet.

This is the wrong time for the boy to be fighting Anderson Silva.
I almost couldn't have said it better myself... almost haha. But yes, you're absolutely right. This fight reeks of Silva domination. The Weidman hype train is at full-speed and methinks the Spider will derail it. It's hard to envision a worse scenario for Weidman going into the biggest fight of his life, against a living legend, no less.

The most concerning thing for Weidman has to be the year layoff. I don't care how hard you've trained, or how well-conditioned you think you are, the cage rust- combined with the adrenaline dump that's sure to occur with a fight of this magnitude- will be a tough obstacle to overcome in itself. Add in the fact that Weidman has very little big fight experience, and it's impossible for me to go with the upset here. I'm almost certain that Anderson will be motivated to show that this kid doesn't belong in the same cage as him yet, and as such, I actually see this one ending fairly quickly.
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Old 06-18-2013, 09:50 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Um, I know you are just talking out of your ass. But you do know that he was praised for going the distance and doing solid vs. Galvao on little formal BJJ training right. He didn't actually BEAT him.
Nope did not know that at all. Just went by the video and the way people were discussing it. So he only beat the one ADCC BJJ guy...my bad

But I do think it's interesting that you point that factual inaccuracy out yet Mark Munoz who was in the top five for a year before he fought Weidman that lie just keeps being pushed in perpetuity.
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Not sure what Munoz ever did. He beat Maia, in a fight many others gave Maia. Other than that he has no good wins.

Sure maybe he was ranked high. Doesn't change his skillset. Munoz was taken down by Chris Leban. Munoz is a short manlet. Munoz is a slow, brawling, wrestler....who hasn't even shown good wrestling. I don't care if he is ranked #2, doesn't change the fact that his skills are mediocre.
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Did you know that if you knock out Mark Munoz, and go to decision with Damien Maia and Alessio Sakara, that you become the 2nd ranked Middle weight fighter in the world even though you havent beat Yushin Okami, Micheal Bisping or Vitor Belfort? Also, all of the sudden people think you are a legit threat to the champion who hasnt lost a fight since joining the UFC. I guess I will also take the crazy boat to idiot land as well.
Don't you even ******* think about it.

You're gonna shit on Weidman for beating Munoz and Maia(who beat Chael which a lot of people seem to forget) then act like Bisping is a legit top five when his best wins are Stann and Belcher? Child please.
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Don't you even ******* think about it.

You're gonna shit on Weidman for beating Munoz and Maia(who beat Chael which a lot of people seem to forget) then act like Bisping is a legit top five when his best wins are Stann and Belcher? Child please.
Well, that's a bit harsh... look at it this way, you can't equate MMA math to say Weidman>Munoz>Maia>Sonnen... just doesn't work.

Second of all, Weidman had one of the easiest paths to a title (not discrediting Maia, but he's a WW now). He couldn't beat Bisping, Okami, Belfort... and I dare say a few others in the top 5.

This is going to end bad for Weidman, I have no idea how much kool-aid has been consumed on this board, but it's borderline insanity.

He's been inactive for a year and nowhere near the skills of the greatest MMA fighter on the planet.
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Well, that's a bit harsh... look at it this way, you can't equate MMA math to say Weidman>Munoz>Maia>Sonnen... just doesn't work.

Second of all, Weidman had one of the easiest paths to a title (not discrediting Maia, but he's a WW now). He couldn't beat Bisping, Okami, Belfort... and I dare say a few others in the top 5.

This is going to end bad for Weidman, I have no idea how much kool-aid has been consumed on this board, but it's borderline insanity.

He's been inactive for a year and nowhere near the skills of the greatest MMA fighter on the planet.
Maia may be a welterweight now but that doesn't change the fact he beat Chael something Bisping and Okami couldn't do. Facts are Maia is a better win by FAR than anyone Bisping has beat.

There is no logical way to hate on Weidman for his record and then go defend Bisping. Remember Weidman is still only 9-0 and he's already this good.

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Old 06-18-2013, 12:35 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Well, that's a bit harsh... look at it this way, you can't equate MMA math to say Weidman>Munoz>Maia>Sonnen... just doesn't work.
Actually....that is a case of MMAth that works, MMAth that wouldn't work would be

Okami>Marquardt>Maia>Sonnen because Chael beat the guys that beat Maia.

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Second of all, Weidman had one of the easiest paths to a title (not discrediting Maia, but he's a WW now). He couldn't beat Bisping, Okami, Belfort... and I dare say a few others in the top 5.
He hasn't beaten them because he hasn't fought them, but Belfort got his shot having never fought in the division coming off an injury layoff. Patrick Cote lost a reality show and he got a shot, the guy who beat him and missed weight still got to fight Anderson. Also Okami was out of the top ten when he lost to Tim, he's come back but it's a recent comeback, Bisping has lost every-time he's stepped up, and Belfort can't get a license in "merica and just came off a fight with Jones.


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Not sure what Munoz ever did. He beat Maia, in a fight many others gave Maia. Other than that he has no good wins.
osmium is the only person who I have seen give that fight to Maia, and osmium loves Maia. This is why I didn't read your factual post about Galvao because you pull out weird crap like that. Seriously are you really going to rewrite history in Maia "almost" won that fight.
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osmium is the only person who I have seen give that fight to Maia, and osmium loves Maia. This is why I didn't read your factual post about Galvao because you pull out weird crap like that. Seriously are you really going to rewrite history in Maia "almost" won that fight.
So you wouldn't say that was a close fight? I have seen many people give it to Maia.

Yea, I'm trying to rewrite history by saying many people had Maia winning, maybe YOU haven't heard many think Maia won....BUT I HAVE. Isn't even close to comparable to what you did in saying a guy won a match he did not win.

Don't get your panties in a bunch you goof.
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So you wouldn't say that was a close fight? I have seen many people give it to Maia.

Yea, I'm trying to rewrite history by saying many people had Maia winning, maybe YOU haven't heard many think Maia won....BUT I HAVE. Isn't even close to comparable to what you did in saying a guy won a match he did not win.

Don't get your panties in a bunch you goof.
You know who didn't think they won that fight Demian Maia

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Demian Maia’s performance against Chris Weidman at UFC on FOX 2 was not as good as his previous acts. The Brazilian was dominated by his opponent, couldn’t stand on his feet nor take his opponent down and was defeated on a unanimous decision of the judges. On an exclusive interview to TATAME, the BJJ black belt affirmed he was more focused on knocking his opponent out than winning the bout at any cost.

What are your thoughts about the fight?

Man, because they changed my opponent at the last minute I believed a lot my hands. I believed I could knock him out and I wanted to see if I could actually do it. I focused on that the entire fight and not focused on winning, but doing what I wanted to do. Actually I guess it’s easier fighting for the win. If I had worried about points… The guy took me down once, twice, these kinds of things.
http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/99495-de...-see-if-i.html

I'll give you credit though...you didn't fall for my trap

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/99376-ju...n-bisping.html

So while I assume you pulled that "people thought Maia won" out of your butt after seeing the wikipedia mistake you didn't so get credit for that.
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Old 06-18-2013, 01:07 PM   #40 (permalink)
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You lost me here. We are talking about Munoz/Maia...and you are posting quotes on Maia talking about his fight with Weidman.

What are you trying to say here?
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