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Old 06-18-2013, 03:49 PM   #51 (permalink)
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Every fighter says this? I wonder what every fighter that has fought Silva has to say. I don't see this fight being any different than Silva/Hendo or Silva/Sonnen II.
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While I think Weidman has the skill set to beat Silva, I think everyone is underestimating his lay off. Silva isn't the best fight for someone who hasn't fought in what will be one year.

I agree with the posters saying a top 5 contender should have been first for Chris.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:17 PM   #53 (permalink)
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Yes he has no BJJ credentials aside from beating that one Brazilian world champion, and of-course beating that other Brazilian world champion on 10 days notice with a 30lb weight cut wouldn't impress you much. I mean Galvao and Maia are nothing compared to Leites and Lutter.
What on earth Weidman BJJ credentials or lack of them has to do with his fight against Maia, which was fought standing? I said that over and over. If the wrestler uses his wrestling to keep it standing, he is the one accepting he is the under grappler, so I trust their own professional judment better than fans.
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Old 06-18-2013, 04:25 PM   #54 (permalink)
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What on earth Weidman BJJ credentials or lack of them has to do with his fight against Maia, which was fought standing? I said that over and over. If the wrestler uses his wrestling to keep it standing, he is the one accepting he is the under grappler, so I trust their own professional judment better than fans.
Well Chris had an obvious advantage on the feet. So why not fight where you have the best chance of winning? I don't think he was conceding anything. Just taking the easiest route to victory on a short notice fight. Why take the fight to the ground where Maia has a better chance? He had 0% chance of getting knocked out standing. Can't say the same about his odds of getting sub'd on the ground.
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Yes he has no BJJ credentials aside from beating that one Brazilian world champion, and of-course beating that other Brazilian world champion on 10 days notice with a 30lb weight cut wouldn't impress you much. I mean Galvao and Maia are nothing compared to Leites and Lutter.

You could also point to his D'arce choke victory over Tom Lawlor and his standing guillotine chokes as being mere lucky breaks and not indicative of any "real" submission skills.

But I mean what's more important his accomplishments or his belt.
I thought he lost to galveo?
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Old 06-18-2013, 06:00 PM   #56 (permalink)
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Well Chris had an obvious advantage on the feet. So why not fight where you have the best chance of winning? I don't think he was conceding anything. Just taking the easiest route to victory on a short notice fight. Why take the fight to the ground where Maia has a better chance? He had 0% chance of getting knocked out standing. Can't say the same about his odds of getting sub'd on the ground.
Hum... you realize we are speaking about the same thing here right, OU? Note I could not criticize Weidman for keeping it standing and I didn't. He did the right thing indeed, as Davis did the right thing against Vinny.
I was just emphasizing his BJJ had nothing to do with his stand up win over the "ADCC" champion in Maia, as claimed.
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Old 06-18-2013, 11:05 PM   #57 (permalink)
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Don't you even ******* think about it.

You're gonna shit on Weidman for beating Munoz and Maia(who beat Chael which a lot of people seem to forget) then act like Bisping is a legit top five when his best wins are Stann and Belcher? Child please.
Bisping has fought alot more people and been around longer and has a more impressive resume ....oh and get this!?! Hasnt been injured for a year. By the way....I ******* HATE BISPING. Keep your Child Please BS to yourself. Im most likely older than you. Weidman is simply another notch on Silva's belt. Plus I think Weidman should of had to fight Bisping or Vitor first.
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Disagree. Sonnen got his shot off the back of casual fans by running his mouth. Weidman got his off the back of hardcore fans that know he is a legit threat. Weidman is the threat Dana tried to convince you Chael was. Plenty of people got fooled by Chael, this is the real threat.
Chael was a threat.
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Chael was a threat.
I believe he meant the threat was believing that he wasn't a threat. If that makes any sense!
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You know this debate over Munoz is missing a big piece. It's not really how good mark ever has been or is. Its that Weidman rag dolled him like a child, using pretty much pure wrestling in the first round. And do you know who taught Anderson Silva how to wrestle? Mark f'n Munoz...

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