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Anderson Silva (c) 60 75.00%
Chris Weidman 20 25.00%
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:15 PM   #581 (permalink)
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Weidman is the MW Champion of the World. This is what matters now. People trying to make him bigger than this phenomenal moment, specially as a striker, are the ones bringing to him bad, but sincere comments in this regard.
He is a complete fighter, indeed, but if he was a better striker than Anderson fecking Silva, he probably would have finished K-1 Maia.
Good post. Refer to the Mastermind video. Damn it. I knew it was a premonition. What will the villains do now...
How will the world react...

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As an Anderson fan I was embarrassed. And still am.

Chris deserves all the credit and am happy for him. But that said, the thing that really bothers be is Anderson was doing what he had to do. People said how great Weidman's ground game is. Silva survived the ground and got up. Then he stuffed a TD and seemed to find range to totally shut down Weidman's TD attack. He did what he had to do, and proved why he is an amazing well-rounded fighter. Then he threw all that away by being a total goofball.

So like I said, credit Weidman for finding that open chin and finishing. But it is a shame that Anderson fought like that when he seemingly was ready to defend Weidman's ground attack.
Yah we all were stunned, but if you think about it...statistically that's pretty damn impressive to do what he's been doing his entire career and not get taken out. Everybody eventually gets TKO/KOed from Ali, Tyson, Foreman, Manny Pacquiao, Lennox Lewis, Oscar De La Hoya, Julio Ceasar Chavez, Mark Hunt, Chuck Liddell, Vitor Belfort, Sugar Shane Mosley,and of course Roy Jones Jr. Sadly Anderson is in this elite group now, but what happens next is equally important in my opinion even though his legacy is sealed.

I'm confident he will avenge his lone loss in the UFC before his time is done.
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Old 07-08-2013, 01:48 PM   #582 (permalink)
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I got Liddellianenko's back here, I've never seen him once be offensive or derogatory to people so it probably wasn't his fault and I've been around here forever.
Same. And what he's been saying is correct - it's just hard to keep an even keel in the face of other people's delusions.

Someone posted this link earlier - it's a brilliant breakdown & a must-read.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...illed-the-king
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Old 07-08-2013, 02:00 PM   #583 (permalink)
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People really don't understand Anderson Silva. He did what he did for two reasons: 1) to put on a show for you fans, the same fans who are hating on him now for being "disrespectful" and 2) to bait his opponent into throwing a strike he wants them to throw because he is a counter-puncher and is ready to evade and counter the strike he is baiting for. Obviously it didn't work this time but he's been doing it his whole career with success, I don't know why so many people are ecstatic and hateful toward AS now that he's lost. Show some respect...
Finally a sensefull comment in this thread.
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Old 07-08-2013, 04:53 PM   #584 (permalink)
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3. when you look at the finishing combo, what got silva was that backfist. Silva was expecting a left hand when he got a right backfist, then couldn't move furthermore when the left hand finally came. I don't know if it's my imagination, but when I watch the replay, I'm under the impression that Silva just had a "oh sh....t" moment right before he got hit, he was expecting one blow to come from the left to the right (from weidman pov) and he would have avoided that one blow, but he wasn't expecting a second blow, and that's what got him.



that finishing combo is a thing of beauty because it caught silva completely off guard, he basically put his head right in the perfect place to be clipped.


This is a legitimate win for weidman, I'm sure they talked about doing such a combo in training.
apparently others think the same

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...illed-the-king

I tend to agree with people using more than a couple of sentence (usually filled with spelling mistakes and/or insults) to make their points

just sayin...

edit: ok there's the link a couple posts ahead, still...
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Yeah he waved with right hand as sort of decoy-punch and prepared the left hand while Silva was ajusting to the decoy... when Silva slingshot back like some sort of plastic man... it was too late Weidman had his punch lock and loaded, left hook was just too quick to be avoided IF fist is in good position it is impossible to evade its simply too fast for consciousness and reflexes to process it.
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Someone posted this link earlier - it's a brilliant breakdown & a must-read.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...illed-the-king
Good break-down. Weidman's merit in smartly change the combo pattern to finish Anderson is undeniable and admirable.

The report I read as a counter attack against radical Anderson followers as it is visibly biased pro Weidman.
The breakdown fails to highlight some good defensive moves from Anderson, as during the ground scramble. He simply says "once the fight returned to the feet..." C'mon. Weidmand wanted that? Anderson was in Weidman's danger zone. The threat was real thus there were no showboating or funny faces and Anderson escaped the leg locks technically and made himself the fight to go back on the feet.
Also Anderson never cared about losing rounds, as he was confident to finish the fights anyway later. Whoever believes Anderson won the 1st round (and I don't remember nobody here saying that) is so off in watching MMA, that being called a Silva fan by Jack Slack for doing so serves only to upset real fans.
No. Show boating doesn't win fights.

In another note. I get confused with Anderson's attitude. The result was unexpected, but fair. I imagine if Anderson actually won the fight after those pathetic moves? Maia dejavu? He was hated by his most loyal fans for that. What would be the bright side of doing that again? Especially against Weidman, such a cool dude and following a preparation with mutual respect from both ends , no trash talking or insults at all. Anderson was acting weird. Not right in his mind he wasn't.
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So, I rewatched the fight a couple of times last night.

Anderson wasnt even looking at Weidman when he threw the first left that put him off balance. He was also caught totally flat footed because of the fact he was doing that pretend hurt thing. No doubt in my mind that Anderson never thought in a million years that Chris could knock him out. How wrong was he?

Also, I noticed that Weidman seemed to be extremely tired? He looked exhausted at the end of the first. Ring rust?

To me, I still don't buy into the fact that Weidman would win a rematch as I honestly think Anderson took the showboating and lack of respect too far and paid the ultimate price.

Full props to Weidman though, He made Anderson look like an idiot.
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So, I rewatched the fight a couple of times last night.

Anderson wasnt even looking at Weidman when he threw the first left that put him off balance. He was also caught totally flat footed because of the fact he was doing that pretend hurt thing. No doubt in my mind that Anderson never thought in a million years that Chris could knock him out. How wrong was he?

Also, I noticed that Weidman seemed to be extremely tired? He looked exhausted at the end of the first. Ring rust?

To me, I still don't buy into the fact that Weidman would win a rematch as I honestly think Anderson took the showboating and lack of respect too far and paid the ultimate price.

Full props to Weidman though, He made Anderson look like an idiot.
Did Silva even land a punch in that fight. Upon rewatching I was actually more stunned at how much Silva missed Weidman. I didn't see a single clean shot from Silva land, while conversely, Weidman was landing some very clean punches.

I've also never seen Silva take shots on his back like that. Normally he avoids any damage on his back.

The conclusion for me is, Weidman can stand with Silva, yet Silva can't grapple with Weidman. That seems to suggest Weidman as the favorite in a rematch.
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Did Silva even land a punch in that fight. Upon rewatching I was actually more stunned at how much Silva missed Weidman. I didn't see a single clean shot from Silva land, while conversely, Weidman was landing some very clean punches.

I've also never seen Silva take shots on his back like that. Normally he avoids any damage on his back.

The conclusion for me is, Weidman can stand with Silva, yet Silva can't grapple with Weidman. That seems to suggest Weidman as the favorite in a rematch.
I think Silva maybe landed 1 or 2 punches? But how often does he land a lot in the 1st?

He took maybe 4-5 good shots from Weidman on his back, but if you remember he took a hell of a lot more from Chael. Weidman hits a hell of a lot harder than Sonnen though.

I saw nothing that made me think Chris can stand with Anderson on the feet, and Silva stuffed a takedown as well as escaped from the submission so the grappling difference is debatable. Not saying that Weidman isnt better on the ground but this fight didnt show it. To me this fight has answered literally none of the questions I had about Chris in the build up.

I'd be interested to see a rematch without the excessive showboating and taunting. I know he does it every fight but this one he went above and beyond his usual.
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My biggest problem with Anderson is I think he forgot how to be an offensive striker. Over the years he has relied on his counter punching and defense and accuracy. He has been worried about wrestlers and doesn't come forward. He is going to have to remember how to attack, or at least stand his ground without backing up and trying to counter.
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