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Ape City 07-01-2013 07:06 PM

Shogun Rua vs Chael Sonnen odds for UFC on FOX Sports 1 #1: Sonnen opens as early fav
 
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Unexpectedly, former Light Heavyweight champion Mauricio "Shogun" Rua will head into his UFC on FOX Sports 1 #1 main event showdown against Chael Sonnen as a slight sportsbook under dog on Aug. 17, 2013. But, how much will this betting line shift prior to fight night in Boston?

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Chael Sonnen has dropped his two most recent Octagon appearances and has not scored a Light Heavyweight win inside the Octagon since defeating Trevor Prangley via unanimous decision at UFC Fight Night 4 back in April 2006.

Nonetheless, the self-proclaimed "American Gangster" from West Linn, Ore., is currently sitting as an early betting favorite (-139) over former 205-pound champion, Mauricio Rua (see the line here), in the build-up to their UFC on FOX Sports 1 #1 main event, which is slated for TD Garden in Boston, Mass., on Aug. 17, 2013.

Yes, the mixed martial arts (MMA) event will go on as planned!

However, it's safe to assume that more than a few combat sports fans are scratching their heads with the oddsmakers' assessment. That's because Sonnen was able to talk the talk in his two most recent fights, but failed to walk the walk, coming up empty in consecutive title challenges against Anderson Silva at UFC 148 and then Jon Jones at UFC 159.

Then again, Silva and Jones are perhaps the two best fighters on the planet. Not to mention"Shogun" is looking to rebound from a unanimous decision defeat to current No. 1 division contender Alexander Gustafsson last December on FOX. And the Brazilian has been unable to win consecutive fights inside the Octagon since knocking out Chuck Liddell back in 2009, compiling an even record (4-4) over that span.

For what it's worth, unlike Sonnen -- who has done it on three separate occasions throughout his career -- Rua has never lost consecutive MMA matches.

There is a first time for everything, right ... or wrong?

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Hmm. I thought Shogun was going to be the underdog so I wasn't surpsied. Just seems like if this goes the distance Chael will have a better and better shot.

GDPofDRB 07-01-2013 07:11 PM

Lotta people are gonna make big money on this.

Dtwizzy2k5 07-01-2013 07:32 PM

Wrestling and endurance will prevail. Shogun is a shell of his former self, he's just not the great fighter he used to be anymore.

Canadian Psycho 07-01-2013 08:43 PM

Both guys are over the hill. But Sonnen can weather any storm not named Jones or Silva. I've wanted to see Shogun get his second wind for years now, but I'm beginning to believe that all of the surgeries and wars have ended any chance of another run to the top. Shogun may stun him once or twice, but ultimately, I think Chael walks through Shogun's striking, puts him on his back, and wears on him for five rounds (it is five rounds, correct?).

jonnyg4508 07-01-2013 09:06 PM

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Both guys are over the hill. But Sonnen can weather any storm not named Jones or Silva.

What fights prove this? I'm not saying Chael doesn't have a good chin and isn't tough. He is. But any storm not named the 2 best fighters on the planet? Is it the Pillow handed Bisping that proves this? Stann who maybe hit him once before being on his back for the rest? Okami's storm? Nate's?

Canadian Psycho 07-01-2013 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jonnyg4508 (Post 2139305)
What fights prove this? I'm not saying Chael doesn't have a good chin and isn't tough. He is. But any storm not named the 2 best fighters on the planet? Is it the Pillow handed Bisping that proves this? Stann who maybe hit him once before being on his back for the rest? Okami's storm? Nate's?

Yeah... ask me what fights prove this and then casually dismiss all of Sonnen's past opponents. That's a swell technique and really encourages debate :rolleyes:

Fine then - we'll go with this. Sonnen walked through Silva's striking in their first fight - something no one else has been able to do - and Silva is much more dangerous and accurate with his striking than Shogun is at this point in his career. That and Shogun won't have the stamina to throw on a submission in the 11th hour (though I agree that stories of his lack of cardio can be exaggerated). But then this is merely my opinion. Shogun could stun and swarm Sonnen, but I don't see Rua as all that dangerous anymore. If Chael can walk through Anderson's striking for five rounds, he can walk through Shogun's.

Factor in Shogun's weak TDD, and I just see it as a bad matchup for him. Even when Sonnen has dominated, he's been stunned, rocked, cut, battered, etc. And he's pushed through it all. I don't think Shogun will be able to handle the pace and level of smothering that Sonnen will bring to this fight. Chael walks through Shogun's striking and grinds out a decision - imo.

SlowGraffiti 07-02-2013 05:43 AM

Shogun can be taken down by a fart these days. Not a good match up.

CupCake 07-02-2013 05:56 AM

I watched Shogun (Pride-Era) the other day...OMG he's underdog to Chael Sonnen? I'm not so surprised as Sonnen has incredible TD's and decent GnP, but no one watching Shogun back in the day could've seen this day coming!

BOMDC 07-03-2013 03:34 PM

Really want Shogun to get an epic KO. Hopefully Sonnen doesn't wrestle the cardio out of him in the 1st because Shogun seems to gas lately in his recent wars.

kc1983 07-03-2013 05:15 PM

Shogun has been way too inconsistent man, I just can't pick him to win against a guy with such good wrestling and cardio.


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