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post #51 of 69 (permalink) Old 07-03-2013, 09:38 PM
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Yeah I doubt that.

Anderson probably realises that he can't stop Jones from taking him down and anyone underneath him for any amount of time is gonna get ****ed up. Anderson does a good job protecting himself off his back but no one can survive Jones' ground and pound.
What I said was far fetched but still think it was partly directed at Weidman. Silva will do his usual antics of mocking a guy when standing, especially trying to get Weidman to engage striking.

Jones is a beast in ground striking, but Silva has been there many times and has not really taken much punishment in his MMA career. Anderson is a champ, I dont expect him to fold like other fighters taking Jones GnP. I also think Jones would win but Silva will be much harder to finish then you think. A small chance but Jones may gas himself out finishing Silva.

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I doubt Jones will gas, his elbows soften up his opponents with every strike to the point you can see them become visibly softer and less in control of their extremities until the fight is over. If Jones is beating on Silva for long expect it to end, it's up to Silva to delay the takedown and deliver an equal amount of punishment before it goes down. Silva being one of the toughest there is can probably only take one round at most two of Jones on top, he's gotta hurt Jones and fast, that being said I expect him to actually try. Silva only really tries quite rarely, in round 2 vs. Okami you saw Anderson trying hard, that Anderson needs to show up against Jones and Weidman. If the fight happens Silva needs to hit Jones once and move, applying the same softening up strategy that Jones does. Hit and move, if he stays too long and gets dragged down without delivering enough damage it's probably fight over even round one. Jones is so good with his elbows that they will even soften up Anderson.
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I doubt Jones will gas, his elbows soften up his opponents with every strike to the point you can see them become visibly softer and less in control of their extremities until the fight is over. If Jones is beating on Silva for long expect it to end, it's up to Silva to delay the takedown and deliver an equal amount of punishment before it goes down. Silva being one of the toughest there is can probably only take one round at most two of Jones on top, he's gotta hurt Jones and fast, that being said I expect him to actually try. Silva only really tries quite rarely, in round 2 vs. Okami you saw Anderson trying hard, that Anderson needs to show up against Jones and Weidman. If the fight happens Silva needs to hit Jones once and move, applying the same softening up strategy that Jones does. Hit and move, if he stays too long and gets dragged down without delivering enough damage it's probably fight over even round one. Jones is so good with his elbows that they will even soften up Anderson.
I see your view of Jones going technical and picking his elbows once a guy is hurt or panicking.
I disagree with Silva only being able to last one round with Jones on top.

In the second Sonnen fight we saw Silva stopping Sonnen from landing significant strikes. Sonnen dominated him for position but couldnt really land big strikes. Sonnen always has his way against anyone in the division when on top. He definetly has the chance to frustrate Jones and sway him from his gameplan. I have never been a fan of Silva but I respect his skills.

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The difference between Sonnen and Jones is that you can roll with Sonnen's attacks because he telegraphs nearly everything and punches with volume, an entirely different attack than what Jones uses. He waits for a moment when his opponent leaves a hole, just a split second, and he strikes with his elbows one at a time, each one successfully weakening his opponents Achilles Fist or whatever GSP called it. Each elbow weakens the knees and dulls the senses just a fraction more until his opponent is so overwhelmed he can finish them. Sonnen just attacks like a maniac with no real strategy besides attacking constantly, comparing the two is not a good comparison in terms of being able to finish Silva.

Silva trains on his back to take punches and he is a professional at rolling with punches as can be seen in the video below, elbows when the opponent is leveraging weight is entirely different.



there are many videos like this and it's why he survived Sonnen
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there are many videos like this and it's why he survived Sonnen
I almost farted out of loling so hard as i read this.

The reason he survived Sonnen is because Sonnen throws touches instead of punches.

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Please. Having a dude with 84.5 inches of reach in your guard is something no fighter can appreciate till it happens. You cant train for it. There is simply no way to prepare for such freaky dimensions and leverage. The elbows alone almost have the reach of many of Silva previous opponents. Its a black hole with no escape. And thats with Bones in your full guard. God help anybody if they end up fully mounted by Jones.
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God help anybody if they end up fully mounted by Jones.
I can be wrong, but I think as long as Jones can defend attacks from the bottom like the one which almost cost his belt/arm, I think it is safer for him to stay in the guard and use those ridiculously long elbows you mentioned. Being so tall and lanky, with his center of gravity up there, gives more opportunity to lose the mount position rather than the full guard, IMO.


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I can be wrong, but I think as long as Jones can defend attacks from the bottom like the one which almost cost his belt/arm, I think it is safer for him to stay in the guard and use those ridiculously long elbows you mentioned. Being so tall and lanky, with his center of gravity up there, gives more opportunity to lose the mount position rather than the full guard, IMO.
Agreed in theory. But still... the though of Jones having a full mount seems mighty scary to me, even though I dont recall seeing it.

Either way, physically the man is, by design, the ultimate MMA fighter. Its all about knowledge from here on. Anything hes not awesome at right now, I'm confident he will be in 5 years.
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Those brutal elbows he dropped on Matt Hamill came from mount didn't they? Gotta feel for Matt Hamill ending up on the receiving end of those.

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I doubt Jones will gas, his elbows soften up his opponents with every strike to the point you can see them become visibly softer and less in control of their extremities until the fight is over. If Jones is beating on Silva for long expect it to end, it's up to Silva to delay the takedown and deliver an equal amount of punishment before it goes down. Silva being one of the toughest there is can probably only take one round at most two of Jones on top, he's gotta hurt Jones and fast, that being said I expect him to actually try. Silva only really tries quite rarely, in round 2 vs. Okami you saw Anderson trying hard, that Anderson needs to show up against Jones and Weidman. If the fight happens Silva needs to hit Jones once and move, applying the same softening up strategy that Jones does. Hit and move, if he stays too long and gets dragged down without delivering enough damage it's probably fight over even round one. Jones is so good with his elbows that they will even soften up Anderson.
The thing about Jones an takedown though is this...

Jones is known for wanting to take his opponents at their strength. With Sonnen he essentially (these are his words) "out-sonnened sonnen". My guess is that Jones will want to strike with Silva for the same exact reason. If that happens then 1. We will se an amazing fight and 2. Silva will most likely prevail.

So will he go with the ego trip and try to fight Anderson in his game or wil he go for the takedown and elbow, a strategy where he has much better chances to win?
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