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Old 07-04-2013, 02:03 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Please. Having a dude with 84.5 inches of reach in your guard is something no fighter can appreciate till it happens. You cant train for it. There is simply no way to prepare for such freaky dimensions and leverage. The elbows alone almost have the reach of many of Silva previous opponents. Its a black hole with no escape. And thats with Bones in your full guard. God help anybody if they end up fully mounted by Jones.
Coleman may be the grandfather of GnP, Fedor may have made it famous, but JBJ has the body and skills to perfect it. His elbows from the top are so insane that you wince when they land. Hell that elbow he landed on Vera to shatter his eye socket was one of the nastiest ones I have seen to date.
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Old 07-04-2013, 04:29 PM   #62 (permalink)
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The thing about Jones an takedown though is this...

Jones is known for wanting to take his opponents at their strength. With Sonnen he essentially (these are his words) "out-sonnened sonnen". My guess is that Jones will want to strike with Silva for the same exact reason. If that happens then 1. We will se an amazing fight and 2. Silva will most likely prevail.

So will he go with the ego trip and try to fight Anderson in his game or wil he go for the takedown and elbow, a strategy where he has much better chances to win?
There is ZERO chance you will see Jones striker with an elite striker. Jones could have beaten Sonnen in many ways but he cannot do that with Silva.

Jones will go for takedown as soon as the opportunity present itself. He will also do that against Alexander Gustafsson.

Jones standup might not even be top-5 in the light heavyweight division. He beat up guys standing because the guys are already beat up OR he beat them up standing because they cannot brawl with him due to risk of being taken down. That leaves fighing from the outside where Jones have huge range advantage normally.
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There is ZERO chance you will see Jones striker with an elite striker. Jones could have beaten Sonnen in many ways but he cannot do that with Silva.

Jones will go for takedown as soon as the opportunity present itself. He will also do that against Alexander Gustafsson.

Jones standup might not even be top-5 in the light heavyweight division. He beat up guys standing because the guys are already beat up OR he beat them up standing because they cannot brawl with him due to risk of being taken down. That leaves fighing from the outside where Jones have huge range advantage normally.
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Anderson doesn't want to fight Jones cause of the size difference and he knows all things being relatively event he bigger man wins, GSP does not want Silva for the same reason and that my freinds is why BJ Penn will always be the man. Mixed results but nobody will ever look back and wonder if he could have done it. But the fact that some have the nerve to question BJ's legacy also explains just what the risk is for a guy like GSP or Anderson to move up.
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Anderson doesn't want to fight Jones cause of the size difference and he knows all things being relatively event he bigger man wins, GSP does not want Silva for the same reason and that my freinds is why BJ Penn will always be the man. Mixed results but nobody will ever look back and wonder if he could have done it. But the fact that some have the nerve to question BJ's legacy also explains just what the risk is for a guy like GSP or Anderson to move up.
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Old 07-05-2013, 09:41 AM   #66 (permalink)
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There is ZERO chance you will see Jones striker with an elite striker. Jones could have beaten Sonnen in many ways but he cannot do that with Silva.

Jones will go for takedown as soon as the opportunity present itself. He will also do that against Alexander Gustafsson.

Jones standup might not even be top-5 in the light heavyweight division. He beat up guys standing because the guys are already beat up OR he beat them up standing because they cannot brawl with him due to risk of being taken down. That leaves fighing from the outside where Jones have huge range advantage normally.
I would agree if and only if fighting "logic" prevails. If however (and I explicitly stated this in my earlier post) the ego prevails it will be a whole different story.

Also, Machida is a striker and sneaky one at that, Jones stood up with him, no?
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Anderson doesn't want to fight Jones cause of the size difference and he knows all things being relatively event he bigger man wins, GSP does not want Silva for the same reason and that my freinds is why BJ Penn will always be the man. Mixed results but nobody will ever look back and wonder if he could have done it. But the fact that some have the nerve to question BJ's legacy also explains just what the risk is for a guy like GSP or Anderson to move up.
I don't think Anderson doesn't want to fight Jones. I do however think GSP doesn't want to fight Anderson. Personally, I think the UFC should force both fights to happen before it's too late.
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I don't think Anderson doesn't want to fight Jones. I do however think GSP doesn't want to fight Anderson. Personally, I think the UFC should force both fights to happen before it's too late.
You want the UFC to force one of their champions to go up/down in weight?

Heres what I think. Three fighters: GSP, Silva and Bones. None of them want to fight any of the others. Silva likes to play games and say all kinds of shit, but when it comes down to it he doesn't really want to fight GSP or Bones. Thats what my gut is telling me.

I - for one - am totally happy with neither fight happening.
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Old 07-05-2013, 03:42 PM   #69 (permalink)
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You want the UFC to force one of their champions to go up/down in weight?
That's exactly what I want.

What's the point of MMA if people don't want to fight each other. Do a catch weight. It's not like losing/gaining 5 pounds is that big of a deal.
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