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Old 07-09-2013, 10:22 PM   #81 (permalink)
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Can't give Weidman too much credit for the win because he only won a glorified sparring match with Anderson. Yes, Silva fights like that sometimes, but he also takes his opponents seriously sometimes too. Like I said, Weidman swung for the fences and committed himself fully to hitting Anderson when he was showboating, it worked for him, big whoop.



The finish is there. Lets see, does Silva look in trouble? Nope. Does Weidman appear to be in control? Nope. Has either fighter sustained damage that could impair them in any way? Nope. Weidman was committed to hitting Silva in that exchange and it paid off. Just look at how ugly of a combo he threw together before clipping him at the end with the left hook. Weidman had nothing to worry about in that exchange and was free to over commit his punches. Also, lets not act like we haven't seen Silva take his opponents seriously; Vitor, Yushin, both the Sonnen fights...I appreciate what Silva does, he tries to put on a show, he's the only champ who does this. Every other champ goes for the win, fights to their strengths, takes few risks. He was the king for a reason, if he takes the rematch and he shows up to fight and hurt Weidman we'll probably see Weidman get laid out.
I actually give him a lot of credit. He avoided Silva's hands the entire night, as well as just about all his kicks. He actually outopointed Silva in the stand up in both rounds.

Silva tends to look really good against shorter opponents, especially non-strikers. Against Weidman he had nothing for him. Roy Jones would absolutely destroy him.
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Old 07-09-2013, 11:17 PM   #82 (permalink)
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I have been a fan of Silva since he fought Leban. I had just started training Muay Thai and saw how epic he was. I was always bias when people hated on his antics in the ring. Now, after the fight, I am upset over his foolishness because I don't know who really was the better fighter because Anderson almost refused to fight with his B.S. in the ring. Yes I was upset Silva lost but Until I see him redeem this loss, he is no longer the champ to me......

When Silva beat Franklin for the belt, that left no doubt in my mind, that is how you beat the champ, not this B.S. but only he is to blame.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:19 AM   #84 (permalink)
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I actually give him a lot of credit. He avoided Silva's hands the entire night, as well as just about all his kicks. He actually outopointed Silva in the stand up in both rounds.

Silva tends to look really good against shorter opponents, especially non-strikers. Against Weidman he had nothing for him. Roy Jones would absolutely destroy him.
The entire night? You say this like the fight was longer than a round and a half. This is what I saw, I saw a guy(weidman) fail to implement his gameplan(takedown silva, GnP and/or submit him) and abandon it to swing for the fences and it worked for him. That's it. The striking and counter striking department has always been Silva's strength, most guys want to avoid it.

You want to see things that aren't there and make **** up? Go right ahead. If that's how you like to live your life, who am I to tell you otherwise? Not like you're going to listen anyway, it's part of living in a world devoid of reason. Absolutely nothing wrong with living in that kind of world, just shuts out a lot of learning, that's it.
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Old 07-10-2013, 08:49 AM   #85 (permalink)
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The entire night? You say this like the fight was longer than a round and a half. This is what I saw, I saw a guy(weidman) fail to implement his gameplan(takedown silva, GnP and/or submit him) and abandon it to swing for the fences and it worked for him. That's it. The striking and counter striking department has always been Silva's strength, most guys want to avoid it.

You want to see things that aren't there and make **** up? Go right ahead. If that's how you like to live your life, who am I to tell you otherwise? Not like you're going to listen anyway, it's part of living in a world devoid of reason. Absolutely nothing wrong with living in that kind of world, just shuts out a lot of learning, that's it.
Perfect placed. This is a realistic description.

Rewatch the fight, guys and pay attention to Weidman and Anderson facial expressions along it and be honest to yourselves about Weidman "dominating" the fight bell to bell or "having Anderson's number".

Begining - stand up:
Anderson relaxed. Weidman concernd.

Take down/ Ground scramble/ Sub attempt:
Anderson concerned/ focused on exit/ get up. Weidman the same.

Back to the feet:
Anderson relaxed. Weidman concerned.

Anderson nullifies Weidman's TD atrempts:
Anderson extra relaxed. His disdain for Weidman's skills becomes evident. Weidman extra concerned and totally lost in his strategy.

Anderson crosses the line:
Anderson lose all his focus and gives up fighting for pure goofiness. Weidman, unable to implement his TD, still concentrated in winning the fight takes the chance that was given to him, and finally, Weidman looks relaxed after finding Anderson's jaw.

Weidman knows that, with the exception of KOing Anderson, he didn't do what he wanted in that fight.
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Old 07-10-2013, 09:08 AM   #86 (permalink)
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At the time, I 100% believed Weidman adrenaline dumped half way through the 1st. He abandoned his game plan and looked like he had very little 'pep in his step'

I can't see how anyone thought he was dominating in a stand up exchange in the 1st.
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Old 07-10-2013, 12:32 PM   #87 (permalink)
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The entire night? You say this like the fight was longer than a round and a half. This is what I saw, I saw a guy(weidman) fail to implement his gameplan(takedown silva, GnP and/or submit him) and abandon it to swing for the fences and it worked for him. That's it. The striking and counter striking department has always been Silva's strength, most guys want to avoid it.

You want to see things that aren't there and make **** up? Go right ahead. If that's how you like to live your life, who am I to tell you otherwise? Not like you're going to listen anyway, it's part of living in a world devoid of reason. Absolutely nothing wrong with living in that kind of world, just shuts out a lot of learning, that's it.


Weidman did'nt fail anything, he took Silva down 30 seconds into the fight and punched him in the face, then he punched Silva in the face while evading Silva's counters standing up which is Silva's game. Silva himself landed zero punches, it was Silva swinging and missing every single time save for a few leg kicks. The fight was not even close before the knock out.

If Weidman would have dominated another fighter Saturday like he did to Silva no one would be questioning it, but because it was Silva he dominated from start to finish everyone has an excuse.
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Weidman knows that, with the exception of KOing Anderson, he didn't do what he wanted in that fight.
besides winning in every single aspect of the fight?
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besides winning in every single aspect of the fight?
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Perfect placed. This is a realistic description.

Rewatch the fight, guys and pay attention to Weidman and Anderson facial expressions along it and be honest to yourselves about Weidman "dominating" the fight bell to bell or "having Anderson's number".

Begining - stand up:
Anderson relaxed. Weidman concernd.

Take down/ Ground scramble/ Sub attempt:
Anderson concerned/ focused on exit/ get up. Weidman the same.

Back to the feet:
Anderson relaxed. Weidman concerned.

Anderson nullifies Weidman's TD atrempts:
Anderson extra relaxed. His disdain for Weidman's skills becomes evident. Weidman extra concerned and totally lost in his strategy.

Anderson crosses the line:
Anderson lose all his focus and gives up fighting for pure goofiness. Weidman, unable to implement his TD, still concentrated in winning the fight takes the chance that was given to him, and finally, Weidman looks relaxed after finding Anderson's jaw.

Weidman knows that, with the exception of KOing Anderson, he didn't do what he wanted in that fight.
What fight were you watching ?
The ground game made Silva more softened up than Weidman. Silva tried a few attacks but was countered. Silva can try to laugh those hits off but they did hurt. The first left hook from the knockout sequence was without Silva clowning.
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