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americanfighter 07-07-2013 04:31 PM

why are people not giving weidman his dues
 
Chris just brutally KOed one of the Greatest ever and is now the middle weight champ but noone seems To be giving him the credit he deserves. All I am hearing is:

Weidman Got lucky
Silva doesnt care anymore
silva through the fight
Age caught up to silva


Silva really didn't do anything he didn't normally and weidman caught him He dethroaned the champ that was once thought unbeatable and deserves his props for it so give it to him.

Swp 07-07-2013 04:36 PM

Its not about that... Weidman is the best middle weight he is the champion no doubt, but the thing is people don't know if he can beat Silva, after that fight...

Sports_Nerd 07-07-2013 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by americanfighter (Post 2153113)
Chris just brutally KOed one of the Greatest ever and is now the middle weight champ but noone seems To be giving him the credit he deserves. All I am hearing is:

Weidman Got lucky
Silva doesnt care anymore
silva through the fight
Age caught up to silva


Silva really didn't do anything he didn't normally and weidman caught him He dethroaned the champ that was once thought unbeatable and deserves his props for it so give it to him.

Silva always clowns his opponents. This level of cockiness, however, was unusual. I haven't seen that kind of bullshit since the Maia fight.

Weidman deserves a ton of respect. He's a deserving Champ and I think he'll stay the champ for a while. but Silva dug his own grave, Weidman just finished the job.

hellholming 07-07-2013 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Sports_Nerd (Post 2153177)
Silva always clowns his opponents. This level of cockiness, however, was unusual. I haven't seen that kind of bullshit since the Maia fight.

that was because Anderson had to step it up since Weidman wasn't having any of it.

JASONJRF 07-07-2013 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sports_Nerd (Post 2153177)
Silva always clowns his opponents. This level of cockiness, however, was unusual. I haven't seen that kind of bullshit since the Maia fight.

Weidman deserves a ton of respect. He's a deserving Champ and I think he'll stay the champ for a while. but Silva dug his own grave, Weidman just finished the job.

Agree with this. Good for Weidman Anderson seemed to do his normal thing but it seemed more than usual with the faking being hurt. It just seemed over the top to where I think he did what he wanted to do after the first few times of calling Chris out to get him to stand with him. After that was accomplished I would have liked him to try and hit Chris and finish him and stop the clowning so if he lost we could know for sure. Now there will be a question mark unfortunately a what if.

Like I said good for Wiedman he maintained composure and got the KO he always was superior on the ground. People saying Anderson wanted to lose and his age caught up are silly. That is not the case.

rabakill 07-07-2013 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONJRF (Post 2153225)
Agree with this. Good for Weidman Anderson seemed to do his normal thing but it seemed more than usual with the faking being hurt. It just seemed over the top to where I think he did what he wanted to do after the first few times of calling Chris out to get him to stand with him. After that was accomplished I would have liked him to try and hit Chris and finish him and stop the clowning so if he lost we could know for sure. Now there will be a question mark unfortunately a what if.

Like I said good for Wiedman he maintained composure and got the KO he always was superior on the ground. People saying Anderson wanted to lose and his age caught up are silly. That is not the case.

The thing is he did try hitting Weidman, it's not that he wouldn't stop clowning, it's that Weidman knew what not to do and he had the timing of the counters down so that every time Anderson did try to hurt Weidman he saw it coming and avoided with ease which is why Anderson increased the frequency of his antics, trying to lull Weidman into a mistake of over committing or stopping moving, that's what Silva does.

Anderson danced around and tried a sidekick, he tried a spinning roundhouse, he tried a crescent kick. Every one of them missed

Sports_Nerd 07-07-2013 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by rabakill (Post 2153257)
The thing is he did try hitting Weidman, it's not that he wouldn't stop clowning, it's that Weidman knew what not to do and he had the timing of the counters down so that every time Anderson did try to hurt Weidman he saw it coming and avoided with ease which is why Anderson increased the frequency of his antics, trying to lull Weidman into a mistake of over committing or stopping moving, that's what Silva does.

Silva is perfectly capable of effectively attacking instead of taunting and countering.

Refusing outright to attack with anything other than leg strikes and just clowning is something I don't think he's done since, as I mentioned, the Maia fight.

rabakill 07-07-2013 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Sports_Nerd (Post 2153289)
Silva is perfectly capable of effectively attacking instead of taunting and countering.

Refusing outright to attack with anything other than leg strikes and just clowning is something I don't think he's done since, as I mentioned, the Maia fight.

As I said, he did try striking, and they missed. Which is why he kept "clowning", it's what Anderson does. It would be like criticizing Muhammad Ali getting knocked out while doing his rope-a-dope

M.C 07-07-2013 05:19 PM

Weidman beat him in the first round and knocked him out in the second, he has all the dues from me.

I was picking Silva to beat him as I thought he was a bit too inexperienced and coming off a year layoff is tough, but he proved me wrong and it'll be interesting to see how his title run goes.

Sports_Nerd 07-07-2013 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rabakill (Post 2153305)
As I said, he did try striking, and they missed. Which is why he kept "clowning", it's what Anderson does. It would be like criticizing Muhammad Ali getting knocked out while doing his rope-a-dope

You call that trying striking? By ANDERSON MUTHAF***ING SILVA?! Nope. That was just disinterested bullshit.


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