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Old 07-08-2013, 11:11 PM   #21 (permalink)
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I agree that Weidman won't hold the belt long. I think he'd lose for sure against Belfort and the likes of, Bisping, Rockhold, Souza would also stand a good chance of taking the belt.

Add to the mix, Machida, Hendo, Moussasi and Evans could drop down.

Hell, even GSP might fancy a move up if Silva is serious about not fighting for the strap anymore.

Theres just too many seasoned fighters for him to be a long term holder of the belt. I fully expect one of the LHW guys to drop for a title shot.
I don't bisping or Rockhold stand much of a chance, GSP won't fight Weidman, I think rory is the one who will move up after GSP beats Hendricks and says he isn't going up in weight
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:40 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Weidman just KTFO one of the p4p greats. He's going to hold the belt for "a minute" as the ethnics say. Nobody at 185 has as complete a game at this point.
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Old 07-09-2013, 08:54 AM   #23 (permalink)
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This thread fails.

Munoz got owned, Silva got owned.

But Munoz would win a rematch because he just decisioned Tim Boetsch and Anderson would win because Anderson wanted to lose oh I'm sorry "didn't care to win" my bad. I'm not very good with technicalities.

But it doesn't end there because Weidman of course sucks and would lose to everyone in the division including the 10 guys he already smashed without breaking a sweat, and every fringe top 10 like Bisping that hasn't ever beaten a cusp top 5 and Vitor Belfort who gets taken down and broken by every half a wrestler he faces. Actually he would even badly lose to blown up welterweights and mighty mouse and that one guy from the bar who has some tough lookin tattoos. Because clearly Weidman sucks and all ten fights he fought and won were fixed, in reality he lost them all.

Do people even watch fights or just make random opinions up and slap them on the internet?

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Weidman won't be champion for long, I think Silva and Vitor would both viciously finish him if they fought again. Weidman does look scared when he fights, he doesn't look like a vicious champion to me.
Again do you even watch fights? He was the first guy to just walk through Anderson Silva's taunting without a second thought and bounce his head off the ground like a basketball. Against Munoz people were worried he might have murdered him, so stupidly late, bloody and brutal was the stoppage. But never mind Chris is totally scared.
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Old 07-09-2013, 09:00 AM   #24 (permalink)
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Yeah vitor's gonna beat weidman alright.... how quickly we forget vitor getting taken down and getting a big black eye against a fat out of shape gassed rumble johnson and now he's gonna beat weidman right. And anderson sure showed how much betetr he is than weidman right.... who is gonna beat weidman at mw? no one for the forseeable future
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I don't bisping or Rockhold stand much of a chance, GSP won't fight Weidman, I think rory is the one who will move up after GSP beats Hendricks and says he isn't going up in weight
I have to disagree with you here. While Weidman KO'd Silva, which was awesome, I think currently that Bisping and Rockhold are the better strikers. Bu Weidman is only getting better so who knows. I think that Bispings style could cause Weidman some trouble. I think people are forgetting Okami in the talk of contenders too. Okami is a tough fight for anyone.

I think if Munoz has a couple more fights and continues to look impressive then he could give weidman a good fight, not sure he can beat him though.

As for Belfort I see him being man handled, he could catch him but thats about it.
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I'm going to have to go with Vitor if he gets home court advantage for obvious reasons. TRT Vitor is unstoppable!

True contenders would be Lyoto possibly Rashad, maybe Gegard, Munoz rematch is interesting,

I don't think Jacare, Luke, will be much of a threat although a Bisping matchup would be entertaining. Bisping does well against wrestlers, but he just can't take a punch well.

I was thinking about Hendo, but he's too old these days.

What do you guys think about Chael...roflz!

Costa would be very interesting especially his history with Serra's camp. I think Costa if he has the conditioning would pose a viable threat. He's strong enough to repel the takedowns and likes to bang.
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I don't think anyone at MW currently can beat Weidman other than Anderson. I mean Vitor has the power to end it, but off TRT I give him no chance. He isn't elusive enough to stay away from TDs. Mousasi is good, but has no wrestling and would have to sub from bottom somehow. Jacare may be a good fight.

I give Jacare the best shot other than Anderson. I do think if Machida moved down and did well with cutting weight that he would beat Weidman. He could be boring and out cardio/out point Chris.
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Left me preface this by saying I am a HUGE Anderson Silva mark....well, maybe not quite huge right now, due to his shenanigans. However, I am basing this solely on what I saw out of Weidman in the f. ht...

In round 1, Weidman looked like he had a pretty big head of steam and his confidence was jacked. As a result, he tossed AS on his ass and landed some pretty solid shots. However, after AS started clowning him, I saw a change in CW's eyes that kind of said, "holy hell, I DON'T got this..", and his spirit seemed to break as he let AS pull him into the striking game. This continued pretty much through to the end of the fight. Of course, I understand that Weidman knows AS is a counter puncher and that trading blows with him isn't the way to go, however, what I saw in CW's face until that knockout blow was prayer. I didnt see a bit of confidence in him in round 2 until AS had already hit the ground. Point here being, CW KNEW his only shot at winning in any decisive manner was to take Anderson to the ground and wail on him or submit him. Yet, he placed himself, in round two, right where AS wanted him, he went deer in the headlights and fell into the stand and trade mindset AS wanted him in. Silva's striking is so over and above Weidman's that it is not even funny, and Weidman and everyone else knows this....yet, after getting easily stuffed, Weidman fell right into a striking match with someone he couldn't strike with....outside of the ever present Puncher's chance that everyone has.

When Chael fought Anderson the first time, he dominated because he legitimately had ZERO fear of Anderson and he brought it. Weidman tried this in the first and fell out of it quickly once Anderson started bitching him. In other words, he can talk all he wants...but Weidman was scared (legitimately so). Had Anderson not clowned himself into that knockout, I believe with everything in me the Anderson would have dropped him within a minute. He was definitely looking for it. And I believe CW knew this as well. Had Anderson nor LITERALLY stuck his chin out for 30 seconds and said "hit me", I think we would have seen Weidman pull a Lesnar and run and collapse as soon as an AS power shot clipped him.

In other words, I personally believe Weidman is scared of losing and scared of someone putting fists all up in his face.

That being what it is, I see Weidman being revealed for the over hyped good, but not great fighter he is...and I see it happening quickly.

If Vitor gets the next shot, Vitor isn't gonna clown him. He is gonna rush with bombs and, if Weidman gets the take down, Vitor is very capable of making him pay there as well. If Weidman does somehow beat Vitor, he has other obstacles, like a fresh Mark Munoz, who will also put some crazy bombs on him and is someone that will take any punch you throw at him and still keep.coming. Also, Machida, if he drops to middleweight, would almost certainly have his way with Weidman due to his excellent takedown defense, power and precision of his punches.

All in all, I feel that, while Weidman is good, i think he is gonna show a lack of heart, ala Brock, as soon as someone he KNOWS is better is standing across from him and putting leather in his face. I honestly feel that we are gonna see a Weidman fall of epic proportions before he gets past his third title defense.

Or, he could adopt the GSP plan of grease and hold them down for five rounds dry humping them because judges scores in relation to lay and pray are ridiculous.

Of course, I could be wrong. But I think Weidman's heart will betray him soon.
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I don't think anyone at MW currently can beat Weidman other than Anderson. I mean Vitor has the power to end it, but off TRT I give him no chance. He isn't elusive enough to stay away from TDs. Mousasi is good, but has no wrestling and would have to sub from bottom somehow. Jacare may be a good fight.

I give Jacare the best shot other than Anderson. I do think if Machida moved down and did well with cutting weight that he would beat Weidman. He could be boring and out cardio/out point Chris.
I hope your not basing your comment on Mousasi's wrestling by the last 2 fights he's had. His fight against Mo Lawal was an aberration, he was far too relaxed and by the time he realized Mo had humped him to a decision the fight was over. I liken that fight to the GSP/Serra fight, GSP went into that fight thinking it would be a breeze (which it should have)and all of sudden he was one and done. Mousasi looked like he had Octagon jitters in his last fight which I'm sure he thought wouldn't happen considering all the places he's fought. No one is immune to 1st time Octagon jitters, unless they're too stupid to know they should be nervous. I think Gegard will have the same kind of success he had in Pride.
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It depends on who he fights. ViTRTor could catch him no doubt but he does struggle against wrestlers. I think Bisping and Jacare are probably the worst matchups for him currently in the top 10. Weidman isn't that fast so an in and out striker with good defensive wrestling like a Bisping or Machida could probably work him all day long and Jacare is a very similar fighter to Weidman but probably has more power in his hands and better submissions.
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