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SimiusDei 07-08-2013 02:51 PM

Why I Believe Weidman Won't Hold the Title Long
 
Left me preface this by saying I am a HUGE Anderson Silva mark....well, maybe not quite huge right now, due to his shenanigans. However, I am basing this solely on what I saw out of Weidman in the f. ht...

In round 1, Weidman looked like he had a pretty big head of steam and his confidence was jacked. As a result, he tossed AS on his ass and landed some pretty solid shots. However, after AS started clowning him, I saw a change in CW's eyes that kind of said, "holy hell, I DON'T got this..", and his spirit seemed to break as he let AS pull him into the striking game. This continued pretty much through to the end of the fight. Of course, I understand that Weidman knows AS is a counter puncher and that trading blows with him isn't the way to go, however, what I saw in CW's face until that knockout blow was prayer. I didnt see a bit of confidence in him in round 2 until AS had already hit the ground. Point here being, CW KNEW his only shot at winning in any decisive manner was to take Anderson to the ground and wail on him or submit him. Yet, he placed himself, in round two, right where AS wanted him, he went deer in the headlights and fell into the stand and trade mindset AS wanted him in. Silva's striking is so over and above Weidman's that it is not even funny, and Weidman and everyone else knows this....yet, after getting easily stuffed, Weidman fell right into a striking match with someone he couldn't strike with....outside of the ever present Puncher's chance that everyone has.

When Chael fought Anderson the first time, he dominated because he legitimately had ZERO fear of Anderson and he brought it. Weidman tried this in the first and fell out of it quickly once Anderson started bitching him. In other words, he can talk all he wants...but Weidman was scared (legitimately so). Had Anderson not clowned himself into that knockout, I believe with everything in me the Anderson would have dropped him within a minute. He was definitely looking for it. And I believe CW knew this as well. Had Anderson nor LITERALLY stuck his chin out for 30 seconds and said "hit me", I think we would have seen Weidman pull a Lesnar and run and collapse as soon as an AS power shot clipped him.

In other words, I personally believe Weidman is scared of losing and scared of someone putting fists all up in his face.

That being what it is, I see Weidman being revealed for the over hyped good, but not great fighter he is...and I see it happening quickly.

If Vitor gets the next shot, Vitor isn't gonna clown him. He is gonna rush with bombs and, if Weidman gets the take down, Vitor is very capable of making him pay there as well. If Weidman does somehow beat Vitor, he has other obstacles, like a fresh Mark Munoz, who will also put some crazy bombs on him and is someone that will take any punch you throw at him and still keep.coming. Also, Machida, if he drops to middleweight, would almost certainly have his way with Weidman due to his excellent takedown defense, power and precision of his punches.

All in all, I feel that, while Weidman is good, i think he is gonna show a lack of heart, ala Brock, as soon as someone he KNOWS is better is standing across from him and putting leather in his face. I honestly feel that we are gonna see a Weidman fall of epic proportions before he gets past his third title defense.

Or, he could adopt the GSP plan of grease and hold them down for five rounds dry humping them because judges scores in relation to lay and pray are ridiculous.

Of course, I could be wrong. But I think Weidman's heart will betray him soon.

LL 07-08-2013 02:56 PM

Munoz? Lmao

Are people serious? Weidman already manhandled Munoz and Vitor who is on a great run struggles against wrestlers. Jacare could give Weidman problems but Okami will beat him.

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SimiusDei 07-08-2013 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LL (Post 2156185)
Munoz? Lmao

Are people serious? Weidman already manhandled Munoz and Vitor is on a great run struggles against wrestlers. Jacare could give Weidman problems but Okami will beat him.

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I say Munoz only because I honestly believe Weidman is gonna crumble as soon as a few VERY hard shots come his way, again, ala Lesnar. I have seen nothing but wrestling that impresses me with Weidman. He is just another hype train. I agree with you otherwise. If Weidman adopts the lay and pray, aka: the GSP special, method, he may hold his title for awhile. If someone throws fire at him he is gonna break pretty quickly, me thinks. Munoz can do that, hence my inclusion of him. Mark Munoz hits like a freaking truck and wrestlers have a habit of running from bombs, or just curling up.

However, in light of the new words regarding ufc 168, weidman may not defend the title even once. If there is a Silva/Weidman II, Weidman is done.

SimiusDei 07-08-2013 03:17 PM

Just to be on the safe side, Weidman should probably keep his mouth shut about AS until after the rematch, or Anderson is gonna hurt him.

ptw 07-08-2013 03:25 PM

Weirdman is done for. I respect anyone who has the balls to say Munoz would take the rematch, he looked vicious against Boestch, definitely not the Munoz Weirdman fought by any means.

Sports_Nerd 07-08-2013 03:33 PM

I know it smacks of MMA math, but Weidman KO's the GOAT, while Munoz wins a competitive fight against Tim Boetsch, and somehow Munoz, who is already on Weidman's impressive highlight reel, has higher stock?!

:confused02:

How does that work?

Gustafsson Fan 07-08-2013 03:38 PM

Weidman will stay champion for years unless Machida drops down in weight soon he could hand Weidman a loss.

The fact of this fight is that Silva got hit more in the face than Weidman in the standup on those occasions where he was not clowning.

Some people think Silva is always going to knock someone out with one strike it is like "he was soon going to knock him out" when he was not landing shit.

dlxrevolution 07-08-2013 04:03 PM

As much as I hate to admit, Weidman winning the belt is the best thing for the middleweight division. So many hungry contenders to test himself against, Machida might drop now, and I could also see Rory moving up.

If he continues to dominate, there could be talks of a superfight between Weidman and Jones. I feel that is much more likely to happen than Jones/Silva ever was.

amoosenamedhank 07-08-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by dlxrevolution (Post 2156401)
As much as I hate to admit, Weidman winning the belt is the best thing for the middleweight division. So many hungry contenders to test himself against, Machida might drop now, and I could also see Rory moving up.

If he continues to dominate, there could be talks of a superfight between Weidman and Jones. I feel that is much more likely to happen than Jones/Silva ever was.

Screw the "superfight"... he just busted the log jam at 185 and we've got some fights to see now.

I personally feel that belt is going to jocky around a bit. I don't see anyone in the MW division right now that seems unbeatable.

guycanada 07-08-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SimiusDei (Post 2156161)

Or, he could adopt the GSP plan of grease and hold them down for five rounds dry humping them because judges scores in relation to lay and pray are ridiculous.

You troll, grease and lay n pray, go watch a fight again, its called active G'N'P

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Originally Posted by dlxrevolution (Post 2156401)
As much as I hate to admit, Weidman winning the belt is the best thing for the middleweight division. So many hungry contenders to test himself against, Machida might drop now, and I could also see Rory moving up.

If he continues to dominate, there could be talks of a superfight between Weidman and Jones. I feel that is much more likely to happen than Jones/Silva ever was.

I agree, Weidman's biggest threats aren't in the MW currently, Machida is elusive and could pose a problem (atleast Silva engages and doesn't back away and counter) and Rory could likely move, he just seems to be cut from the same mold as Weidman and could pose a few problems given his all around skill-set


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