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Ref Herb Dean was unsure if Anderson Silva was faking or unconscious at UFC 162

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#1 ·
Ref Herb Dean was unsure if Anderson Silva was faking or unconscious at UFC 162

by Steven Marrocco on Jul 08, 2013 at 6:00 pm ET

Veteran referee Herb Dean had refereed four Anderson Silva fights prior to UFC 162 and seen others cageside. So when Silva began to clown Chris Weidman in the main event of this past Saturday's pay-per-view, he did little else but pay close attention.

Dean couldn't hear what, if anything, "The Spider" was saying when he gesticulated at Weidman in the middle of exchanges.

"I didn't have any problem with it," Dean told MMAjunkie.com Radio (www.mmajunkie.com/radio). "If that's what he wanted to do. Everybody is in there for their own reasons, and he's in there to do something great, and he challenges himself to be able to do his antics while he's right there in the danger zone, and he was doing his thing."

Unfortunately for Silva, that led to a different result than any of the other times he stepped into the octagon and toyed with his opponents. For the first time in his octagon career, his antics caught up to him when Weidman landed a left hook that sent him crashing to the mat.

But because Silva had just moments before been feigning the type of damage he actually took at that moment, Dean wasn't quite sure whether it was all just a part of the act.

"It was almost a replay of the pantomime that he had done," he said. "I saw him go down. I respond to it whether it's pantomime or not, but to be honest, I wasn't sure. But I'm going to respond and get in close to get a better look. Once I got in there and got a better look, he was unconscious to me."

Dean might actually have helped Silva wake up by pushing off the swarming Weidman. The deposed champ grabbed one of his legs as the new champ paraded around the octagon, enjoying the biggest win of his undefeated career.

Silva had defended his title 10 times and had never been defeated in the UFC before Weidman one-upped him and took the belt.

Referee Dean has overseen hundreds of bouts in addition to his times in the cage with Silva, and was aware that he was part of history before he ever set foot in the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. But like just about everyone, he wasn't expecting to see what he saw.

"You put two well-trained guys who are trying to take each other's will away, anything can happen," Dean said. "But the way it happened, to get caught in the middle of his antics, I think that was a little bit surprising."

http://www.mmajunkie.com/news/2013/0...or-unconscious
 
#13 ·
He was pretending.... He just wanted to lose the title so he can work on his acting career.


Even though he had all these other options.

1. Retire with the belt and undefeated and the best legacy in the sport of MMA.
- Come back if he ever feels the itch to fight again.

2. Ask Dana to create an Interm belt so he can take some time off.

3. Forfeit the belt so he can look for those interesting fights people are talking about.


Alot of options better then getting a concussion and putting a black mark on your legacy so you can not have the belt and focus on acting.


But nope.... Anderson lost on purpose.
 
#15 ·
He was pretending.... He just wanted to lose the title so he can work on his acting career.

[...]

But nope.... Anderson lost on purpose.
Your explanations on why it is unlogic that Silva lost on purpose become a little annoying when actually nobody seriously claimed that he did. You often do have good arguments, but in this case you shouldn't try to look smart, when there's nothing to be smart about.
 
#14 ·
haha this was posted today:

Conspiracy theories that say that the fight between Anderson Silva and Chris Weidman had a suspicious result may have won an argument on Monday. According to the website "Middle Easy", a bet worth $ 1 million (about U.S. $ 2.2 million) in the victory of Chris Weidman against Anderson Silva in the main event of UFC 162 was being investigated by police and Gaming Control Board, the body that regulates gambling in casinos in the city. The gambler's identity has not been revealed, but the high value aroused suspicions of the authorities, not being an amount common in MMA fights, even throughout major events and major American casinos. The premium to be paid would be $ 3.2 million - about £ 7 million.
The favorite on the betting exchanges was Anderson Silva, who had never lost in 16 fights in the UFC, and held many records of the event. Already Weidman, even paying only 3.2 times more than the champion for every dollar wagered, was unbeaten in his career, having won all nine fights as a professional had done.
For determination of Justice, the research runs a secret court, and the details can not be disclosed publicly.
http://sportv.globo.com/site/combat...-em-chris-weidman-e-investigada-diz-site.html


Will have to get MMASportsman to give it a read over and let us know if the translation is accurate.
 
#31 ·
Will have to get MMASportsman to give it a read over and let us know if the translation is accurate.
The translation is fairly accurate. Only this
about £ 7 million
, should be R$ 7 million Reais (Brazil currency).

That's a severe situation. I truly prefer to see Anderson embarrassed on the ring rather than involved in something as low as this.
 
#20 ·
Yeah i saw it. That is pretty interesting but im really curious in seeing who made that bet. If its someone like mayweather then i would not be all that surprised. Weidman on paper looks like a good opponent for Silva and the UFC has hyped him up pretty good on promos so it does not surprise me if some rich guy who wipes his ass with hundred dollar bills thought that does odds were too good to pass up. Which im guessing is the case..... or i guess its possible that Anderson has someone make that bet for him because he wanted to throw the fight and make bank. But then 1mil seems a bit low seeing as how he probably makes a few mil each fight especially on a win. I think i read somewhere that GSP makes like 5-6mil per fight or something?? (Not sure if thats the correct number) so im not surprised if Silva makes 1-3mil. So what would his return on a 1mil bet be?? like 2-3mil?? I dont know what the odds were but im guessing pretty far on Silvas side.
 
#23 ·
No way he would fake tap to a sub.
Anderson takes the respect for his BJJ masters pretty seriously. After all, it it wasn't for Big Nog he would be washing cars right now...
 
#28 ·
It's just that Anderson life and his family would be so much different if Big Nog hadn't insisted with Andy to keep going, even borrowing him money at the time so he could keep training without getting a real job.
I just can't begin to imagine how i wouldn't be licking that guy's balls for the rest of his life if it had happened to me...
 
#30 ·
Yeah i know he did all that stuff for him and i agree id be licking the dudes nuts also because he in a way saved your life but i just dont really understand why throwing the fight by sub is any more insulting then just throwing the fight by whatever. Like i said maybe its just cause i have a different honor code or im not a trainer or whatever BUT if im going to be pissed off its because my student threw the fight. I could care less how he threw the fight tbh...
 
#33 ·
Yeah Sportsman, I agree. It's ridiculous for him to do something like that.

Anderson already makes 7 million per fight, it's a rather low bet for a guy of his monetary value so I don't actually think it was him but maybe he told DanDan that he was going to lose and lent him some money?

(i am only a 1/4 serious)

By the way, I didn't see any Nogeuira's or Feijao crying when Anderson lost. Everyone seemed okay with it.
 
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