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Phil Davis 7 17.50%
Lyoto Machida 33 82.50%
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post #131 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 10:05 AM
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Really depressing stuff.
Sad for Lyoto and for the sport that is becoming ridiculous pretty quickly...

Lyoto reacted pretty well, he really is a class act!

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post #132 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 10:30 AM
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Guys watch the fight again without commentary. Machida was dominating the first round but went into bitch mode once Davis took him down at the end of the first.

Machida had one good moment in the fight and didn't catch Davis on that fluru in the first, Davis slipped. Tried to do a similar flurry again and Davis switched levels brilliantly and took his ass down, pounded on him and constantly went for subs while on top. Machida was not getting up from eithertakedown. The two most dominant moments in the fight belonged to Davis and that is why he won. You don't get points for running in reverse and not landing strikes while doing it.

Davis lost complete respect for Machida after the first round. Stood with him and landed an even number of strikes. I was really impressed with his standup, when Machida rushed in he would circle back and to the left or drop levels and go for the takedown. Machida was completely neutralized.
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post #133 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 10:41 AM
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Davis has no real hope in this division. His wrestling isn't going to win him the belt at LHW and his striking, as it is way too slow and inaccurate, is not even close to being competitive in this division. Davis fought Machida's game (who did control the center half of the time) and IMO lost.
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post #134 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 10:57 AM
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******* hate MMA judges.
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post #135 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 11:02 AM
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Each time Machida has fought as of late hes shown me nothing that would prove he stands a chance against Jones. Machida has been very stagnant as a fighter and will never hold the LHW title again. Glad hes out of contendership with this loss so we don't give Jones another free title defense. (assuming he beats Gus).

Davis is talented, but I just don't see him being able to ride out a UD on Jones and he certainly doesn't have the striking to finish him. Perhaps his submission game is tight enough to finish Vitor's armbar. A more interesting fight. And if Gus wins, we can see a rematch for the title. The better option won last night.

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post #136 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 11:03 AM
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...Razor-close fight. These type of fights must give the judges major headaches. I think Davis should have gotten an SD instead of a UD. Either way, he won but not impressively. Phil isn't ready for Jones yet. The obvious next fight for Davis is Glover T. Joe Silva needs to make that happen. A Tex/Davis contender fight would not have the same results as the Machida/Davis fight. I think Tex would finish Davis in brutal fashion at some point in the fight...
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post #137 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 04:09 PM
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My take.

1.) Phil Davis' striking has improved, enough to stand against one of the elite LHW strikers. That's surprising on its' own merits.
2.) Not sure if the 1st takedown in the round was to steal the round. Me thinks he saw the flurry and reacted to it.
3.) Takedowns stole the rounds, couldn't been any other reason.
4.) Machida without a doubt landed the more significant strikes.
5.) Machida vs Davis should have been a five rounder.
6.) This decision was in Brazil. Anywhere else more people would have claimed a bias crowd or judges.
7.) UFC already granted him a rematch against the LHW title holder granted it was on short notice before Vitor took it.
- beats Hendo in a "lackluster" fight then gets forced to fight again.

Back to the drawing board.

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post #138 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 10:13 PM
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First two rounds to Phil.

Pretty even stand up but Davis got the takedowns. Machida never landed a more significant strike then Phil.

Connected one or two more but not enough to negate the takedowns.

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post #139 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Roflcopter View Post
No, this is stupid 15 minute fights at its worse.

5 round fight should be standardized for anyone who aren't bums and HWs...although those two words are synonymous

I'm quite frankly getting sick of how short and indecisive most MMA fights are.

Hell even Leites-Watson earlier tonight would've been more interesting if it was 5 rounds.

Boxing matches are 30 minutes minimum and 36 at championship level, and MMA fights are 15? Ridiculous.
I have definitely been leaning towards 5 round fights for everyone. Championship Fights don't need to be longer than normal fights - The Superbowl is just as long as a playoff game and a regular season game, hell it's even as long as preseason. So why not make all MMA fights 5 Rounds, and if you don't have the stamina - Either knock out or submit the guy early or too bad.

The vast majority of fights are 3 rounds and too many decisions are happening. Mandatory 5 round fights would eliminate most decisions and unclear decisions.
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post #140 of 157 (permalink) Old 08-04-2013, 11:56 PM
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"I don't really like Machida as he bores me. But I think he won that fight.

Also, it's time they abolished the decisions and have the fighters battle it out in a sudden death round. Whoever gives up loses. I hate decisions in fighting."

Totally agree. I like the old days when you didn't leave the ring until you either beat the other guy, or you lost to the other guy. That's a fight and this is supposed to be the "Ultimate FIGHTING championship" - Not the "Ultimate Impress the Judges Championship"
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