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Vinny Magalhaes VS 6 60.00%
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:53 PM   #41 (permalink)
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is anybody else getting lost in Brain Stann's eyes?
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:54 PM   #42 (permalink)
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I almost think you don't have to hit cleanly against Vinny. I know Bader hits like a truck so it may be a bad example, but he hit Vinny with a half deflected punch and Vinny folded like a bad hand.

Unfortunately for him, all of his flaws in MMA can't just be fixed in training. He could learn better defense, but that's about it.
Actually nearly all of flaws can be corrected in training. A lot of guys have shitty chins, it's MMA. A real fighter doesn't get caught on the button by a slow bum like Perosh.

He's a great athlete, he's big and strong and flexible. He's just awful and has terrible fight instincts, I'm amazed that someone as inept as him could've even been a world class BJJ practitioner.
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Old 08-03-2013, 10:21 PM   #43 (permalink)
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That's why I said he could work on his defense, but he will never be able to improve his weak chin or his heart. Some guys can get by with a lack of striking defense, he clearly isn't one of them.

I agree that a real fighter doesn't get caught by a guy like Perosh, but that's just it. He isn't a real fighter. He's a BJJ guy who can't take a punch and doesn't like getting hit in general. How he folded against Bader was all the evidence we needed. He has a lot of physical tools like you mentioned, but he just doesn't have a fighters mentality. A real fighter doesn't get hit with one good punch, and then give up mentally.

My memory might be fuzzy, but I don't think the first (half deflected) punch Bader landed put him out. He kind of just fell down and cashed in before the follow up, but Bader put his lights out once he was down.

It's too bad really because like you said, he has a lot of good physical tools. I guess we can put him in the "waste of potential" bin.
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Not until I saw him towering three feet above Hands of Stone after the fight
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I almost think you don't have to hit cleanly against Vinny. I know Bader hits like a truck so it may be a bad example, but he hit Vinny with a half deflected punch and Vinny folded like a bad hand.

Unfortunately for him, all of his flaws in MMA can't just be fixed in training. He could learn better defense, but that's about it.
Not really it was pretty much identical to JDS/Cain


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It could be my bad connection, but Juniors punch looked cleaner to me while Vinny looked like he was barely hit. I keep watching the second view and it looks like it nearly misses. You don't get a great view on Junior's punch, but it does look like a cleaner hit in my opinion.
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Yeah actually it does but it's probably because it's sped up.
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I hate Cezar Mutante....he's shit.

I have no idea why the UFC would put this joke of a fight on a pay per view to display such a mediocre fighter.
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Magalhaes fight was wicked. didn't foresee that outcome. didn't even see that punch...
McCall did good, Santos landed some tough strikes in 2nd
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Magalhaes should be released after this pathetic and sloppy loss. He had every advantage you can think of and still lost. M-1 will pick him again.
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