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Travis Browne 13 43.33%
Alistair Overeem 16 53.33%
Draw 1 3.33%
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Old 08-20-2013, 01:15 PM   #171 (permalink)
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Is Overeem still training at the BlackZillians??? That camp really is horrible. Other then Rashad there are very few people there that can teach overeem anything new. And Rashad gets rocked in every single one of his fights so maybe Rashad should not teach Overeem anything but TDD.

Is there even any legit HWs in that camp?? Or is it just good and getting old LHWs???

I mean really there is not a single person in that Camp that can teach Overeem how to be better defensively and how to pace himself. Most of the guys there get caught similarly to Overeem. And i think i read somewhere that the gym is mainly fighters training other fighters. Isnt Vitors main coach Rashad Evans now??
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Old 08-20-2013, 02:56 PM   #172 (permalink)
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Healthy, motivated, experienced Lesnar vs non roided up Overeem would have had a chance. I think Lesnar lacked experience of taking big kicks and how to avoid being knee'd etc. But I think Lesnar could have beaten him. Especially if he had gotten him to the ground and tired him out.
I have to disagree. Lesnar never seemed like he liked to get hit. Reem punished him with probably the hardest shots he'd ever taken in his life and quit.
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:22 AM   #173 (permalink)
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I have to disagree. Lesnar never seemed like he liked to get hit. Reem punished him with probably the hardest shots he'd ever taken in his life and quit.
Lesnar was a beat up man coming off surgery because of his two time bout with diverticulitis, it was so bad that his doctor told him to retire because of the severity of his illness.

A healthy Lesnar would have smashed Overeem all night long.
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Old 08-21-2013, 03:46 AM   #174 (permalink)
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2 fights ago I would never have said Healthy lesnar could beat Reem. Now, I've no doubt about it. ! takedown would be all it took. Lesnar would either get the finish right then or he would gas Reem so bad in the first he could just pound on him all night long.

I was, and still am to some degree a Reem fan, but to see that his chin is no better now, than it was when he was 80lbs lighter is somewhat of a worry.
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Old 08-21-2013, 04:32 AM   #175 (permalink)
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The Reem's chin has always been the worry when it came to him stepping up to the top competition. That's why a lot of guys were saying Fedor would have beaten him. One big bomb right hand from Fedor, and that would have been it. Overeem really needs to re-consider whether he wants to continue fighting, he's now been brutally knocked out by Hoffman, Liddell, Shogun twice, Kharitonov, Big Foot and Browne, that's a hell of a lot of head trauma. Especially when you add in the Hari and Feitosa knockouts, and all the other punishment he's taken in other fights, and in brutal sparring in Holland. Time to hang the gloves up Reem.
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His transition from LHW to HW was phenomenal with or without foreign substances. It translated to wins. Unfortunately on a bigger platform it's going against him. The fact that he was winning quite convincingly shows his skills. Unfortunately he has major holes. Lack of gas/conditioning could be perceived as a lack of heart. I don't think you can get to this point without heart so it really points to his body shutting down and weak chin. ANYBODY who's ever been in a fight would know this. Once your energy is depleted ALL BETS are off. It's quite a shitty feeling. As a pro it "shouldn't" happen, but ya know if he had a chin like Hunt and cardio like Cain then he'd be a near unbeatable character. Everyone has flaws. If he can somehow correct em or at least work on it then he may be able to get back into the win column.
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Greg Jackson is now 6-1 lifetime against the Lackzilians - and this is his second huge upset over them (Isaac Vallie-Flagg's stunner over JZ Cavalcante - Cavalcante was picked to win by a whopping 95% of respondents on tapology - at Strikeforce was the first).

Greg's only loss to them, by the way, was not in the UFC (Anthony Johnson's WSOF win over Andrei Arlovski in March of this year).
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His transition from LHW to HW was phenomenal with or without foreign substances. It translated to wins. Unfortunately on a bigger platform it's going against him. The fact that he was winning quite convincingly shows he was facing bummy competition.
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Never liked to get hit? You think? He practically ran when hit by Carwin & Cain. Brock was good at being the bully until someone stood up to him.

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Gee thanks! I'll pay you a $100 cash to spar with Overeem then Youtube it for us MMAers to see how much skills he has or lack of as you inferred.

Might even throw in a membership.
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