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post #101 of 176 (permalink) Old 09-01-2013, 01:35 AM
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yeah it sucks, i was pissed at the call when it happened cursing at the ref...but after my fanboyism calmed down i realized it was a good call

like MC said if they go limp for a sec it is the refs job to protect the fighter and stop the fight



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There just seems to be so many times when fighters are given a lot of chances to recover after the exact same scenario occurs. Maybe they need to define when a ref should step in more clearly, because I seem to recall many instances where fighters knees buckle like that and they eat many shots and then recover, then we all praise them for amazing reffing.
Knees buckling is one thing bro, going completely limp is another. I can't upload the image for some reason, but here's a link to the GIF:

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He was out cold and body went limp, he woke up while the ref was calling it. He might have been able to fight on but he went unconscious and that's the end of the fight.
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I'd still have waited an extra second or two if I was the ref. I see what your saying though and don't think it was as bad as I originally did.


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I wish I had money on this. Very few fights where I feel I can "almost" bet the house. Vitor vs Rich Franklin. Rashad vs Lil Nog which I would have lost my house. Anderson vs Chael (that was the most amped up I was), Lyoto vs Rashad, and tonight.

Barnett could easily get submitted had he overcommitted on the ground. He meant business tonight. Funny thing is I'm not a fan at all. I think he's a dik. But a highly skilled one at that. Crocop actually beat him three times. Shows how much of a beast CC was at the time. Presently Barnett would probably own em. As Rogan said "he's been in the biz for a decade plus and is a factor in the heavyweight division."

Barnett vs Travis Brown even though Rothwell called em out, Barnett vs Big Foot
Barnett vs Werdum.

Mir vs Overeem 100%. If The Reem loses he will be cut sadly.

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Thats what happens when fights aren't fought on paper. And who you beat in the last 7 years doesn't matter.

Any claim of Mir even being a decent striker can be laid to rest. He is a pure BJJ guy basically.
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Thats what happens when fights aren't fought on paper. And who you beat in the last 7 years doesn't matter.

Any claim of Mir even being a decent striker can be laid to rest. He is a pure BJJ guy basically.
Went as i expected tbh, Barnett excels in this area and Mir sucks there, we already knew it.

That said, terrible, terrible stoppage. The ref stopped it based on speculation, not because Mir was done. It seemed like Barnett could've swarmed on him after but we don't know that.

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Yeah Poirer dropping Koch was more brutal then Josh dropping Mir.

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I, personally, feel it was a good stoppage. If Barnett had swarmed there was nothing Mir was going to do to stop it. He hadn't even adjusted his head yet to try and look at Barnett. Best case scenario he turtles and the ref stops in there. Worst case Mir goes all the way out for the 3rd time in his career and has to start wondering about what it could do to his brain.
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tbh the ref did MIR a favor. He now has a question mark under the loss instead of thinking maybe im not able to hang with the top 10 anymore.

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Went as i expected tbh, Barnett excels in this area and Mir sucks there, we already knew it.

That said, terrible, terrible stoppage. The ref stopped it based on speculation, not because Mir was done. It seemed like Barnett could've swarmed on him after but we don't know that.
Oh geez, don't be that guy. Not every fight is going to be stopped perfectly. These are human beings in there. Mir has had his lights rung over and over. The ref was saving him years on his life. He was going in and out of sleep.

Barnett dominated Mir. The ref felt for Mir and didn't want to see any more. That wasn't a terrible stoppage by any means. Just because a guy wakes up AFTER a guy stops punching him doesn't mean anything. A couple more good blows and some would have said it was too late.

And no there were a lot of people who thought Mir was as good if not better of a striker. Which is a laugh and always has been. Mir is a TERRIBLE striker. One guy said Barnett wasn't a good enough wrestler nor powerful enough like a Carwin or Lesnar to beat Mir up. Many said Barnett didn't fight anyone in years, therefor he is a fraud and ZUFFA Mir would snap a limb.
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