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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old 08-22-2013, 04:53 PM Thread Starter
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Alistair Overeem: MMA, Kickboxing Legacy Stifled by Steroids

At the moment his career is resembling the aforementioned athletes in the article and the ones before him. This goes back to the interview Travis Brown gave about him abusing his body. I'm not one to judge. It's all there I suppose.
You can say the juice is gone or this or that, frankly all athletes decline regardless; Fedor, Chuck, Tiger, Fedor, RJJ, and everyone else. Sometimes quicker than others.

I think it's lost potential. Can The Reem make a triumphant return or do you feel he's finished.

This past Saturday, Alistair Overeem suffered his second loss in a row at the feet and hands of Travis Browne on UFC on Fox Sports 1 at TD Garden in Boston.

The fight, which ended at 4:08 of the first frame, and pre-fight were hauntingly similar to his last loss against Antonio "Big Foot" Silva.

Overeem weighed in on Friday not flaunting his once pronounced superhero physique, but hunched by the weight of deflated pectorals, which hung like popped steroid balloons. He walked to the cage, less with the fierceness of an impending fight, but more with the bravado of entering a "Knockout of the Night" award ceremony.

The former K-1 kickboxing champion spent the better part of the fight dominating his opponent with punches, kicks and knees. And just when the audience was confident of the outcome, Overeem took a deep breath, dropped his hands, and got hit with a vicious knockout blow.

The opponent celebrated above him, like a float in a nightmare parade, while Overeem slumped into the canvas like a muscular bean bag chair.

And yet afterwards, little is heard about the opponent, perhaps slight murmurs of their determination and courage.

But their efforts are drowned out by the blitzkrieg of Overeem questions. Are his loses due to low testosterone, endurance or ego? Will or should the UFC cut the former Strikeforce heavyweight champion? What is Overeem's legacy?

For MMA fans and journalists, Overeem is MMA's version of Mark McGwire or Sammy Sosa. "The Reem," a former light heayweight prospect, seemingly overnight transformed into a heayweight, a comic book drawing, a chiseled mass of muscle.

Few speculated about the results, but Overeem promised it was due to a steady diet of weight lifting, protein and horse meat. And shockingly that answer seemed to suffice.

Dream heavyweight champion. K-1 Grand-Prix heavyweight champion. Strikeforce heavyweight champion. The community became so entranced by his accomplishments, so mystified by his wins, that we did not stop to think if we should.

We were far too busy watching his mini-documentaries, creating Overeem highlight reels, watching his countless appearances on foreign television, and proclaiming Overeem as not only one of the greatest heavyweights but fighters of all time.

And then in 2011, UFC signed Overeem.

"The Demolition Man" dismantled former UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar in the first round at UFC 141. And in return, the MMA community predicted the Dutchman would eventually wear UFC gold.

But then, Overeem failed a pre-fight drug test for a potential title bout against now former UFC heavyweight champion Junior Dos Santos. Overeem had a 14-1 testosterone-to-epitestotesrone (T/E), well over the allowed ratio rate of 6-to-1.

Immediately, fans and journalists, ones who only revered the man's efforts, now stood on internet platforms claiming to have "known all along" about Overeem's steroid use. The community denounced his efforts, accomplishments and championship belts, saying they were all built on a false foundation.

Overeem served a suspension, promised to never take medicine without investigating the contents, and arrived back on the scene a physical shell of his former self, a melted mountain of muscle. Reports surfaced of extreme low levels of testosterone. And after these two knockout losses, that once superhero physique seems more super than hero.

Where he once walked through the community as a feared physical specimen, he now stumbles lonely and confused, searching for a past he may never find.

And if nothing changes, Alistair Overeem will be forever be remembered as a man who was morally and physically slayed by his own baton. Or steroid needle.

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Basically he was taking roids like EVERYONE suggested , he was finally caught his steroid abuse was stopped/ halted , his level of competition went up and he was found out.

In a way i find it quite sad because he has some skills but his roid abuse really has soured my view on him as a fighter / person and most likely everyone elses view.

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The Reem appears to be genuinely a nice guy. And for much of his career he may have been abusing his body, but not cheating. It's not illegal everywhere.

I really do not care if athletes use illegal PEDs. They play sports. B2 bomber pilots take performance enhancing drugs. JFK did. Who knows who else did. Let's not act like athletes of yesteryear didn't take advantage of everything they could to be a better athlete.
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People have always had extreme opinions about Overeem. It's presently no different. This talk of his great demise is really exaggerated. He got knocked out twice in a row at HW against top level guys like himself. Fact is he lost two fight he was clearly winning or even dominating in because he got struck down by dangerous fighters, not because he is some overrated, cheating, cocky, under performing a hole failure like the author of that fan post leans it, that is the game no matter how much one tries to convince themselves of how it should be because of their expectations. This reminds me of Dana saying Urija Hall isn't a fighter, people see promise in something then let their expectations run absolutely buck wild only to pull a 180 and worse when it turns out what they wanted to believe was not how reality played out.

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I disagree that it's steroids that makes him suck. He went in and had the power to win against Browne, didn't seem to be extremely gassed.

His problem is what it always has been, his number one criticism; he plods forward and doesn't use any footwork or head movement. This is stuff you'd be practicing in the second week of boxing training and this supposed professional uses none, it's way too big of a hole to have in the UFC. It's like having no wrestling skill or zero sub-defense, when you have a hole that big the opponent will exploit it time and time again, he's been figured out. Stay away and wait until he plods then hit him until he falls down. All he had to do was move his head left or right 6 inches and he would've won. He has the level of defense of Matt Hughes. The problem is skill, not physical. I think if he's clean now that version could win the belt because his offensive skillset is enough to hurt anyone in the UFC, he just needs to learn defense.
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I completely agree with the author. Reem is a known cheater and was never good enough, people were just blinded by the hype machine and did'nt want to believe the truth about him even though a lot of those same people knew he was a fraud.

The UFC should send his ass packing so he can move back to another crap organization where they don't care about steroid abuse. The fighter everyone should be talking a lot more about is Travis Browne, not this loser.
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