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Old 07-31-2006, 09:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Frank Mir the Dennis Hallman of Matt Hughes?

After Bitter Rivals, Tim Sylvia said Frank Mir was the Dennis Hallman of Matt Hughes. Dennis Hallman is one of the few fighters that beat Matt Hughes but could not beat anybody else. Sylvia believes Mir's victory over him was a fluke. Do you think Frank Mir is on Tim Sylvia's level or was his victory only a freak thing?
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Old 07-31-2006, 10:41 PM   #2 (permalink)
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sadly i think frank mir WAS on his level but now is not, and imho wont ever be again.
he seriously broke that leg, and rehab can be tuff, but his weight and conditioning in his fight vs christinson was very sad. a guy who wont keep his body in shape, wont work hard enough to be a champ again, accident or no accident.
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:04 AM   #3 (permalink)
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dont count mir out ..hes still a young guy.. i think if he gets serious and starts training hard again, he could beat tim again..
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Old 08-01-2006, 12:13 AM   #4 (permalink)
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dont count mir out ..hes still a young guy.. i think if he gets serious and starts training hard again, he could beat tim again..
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Old 08-01-2006, 01:48 AM   #5 (permalink)
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True, but he's got ALOT of work ahead of him, and it won't be quick either. If he goes into the next fight lookin like he used to it'll be pretty obvious he's on steroids.
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Old 08-01-2006, 09:34 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Don't compare him to Hallman. This guy is more of a Penny Hardaway or Grant Hill. The guy was in an accident and hasn't been able to recoup. He WAS better then Tim and was developing into one of the top HW submission fighters, now he's just fat and washed up. I suggest UFC has him fight Vera to officially end all this crap.
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:29 PM   #7 (permalink)
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According to the post fight interview, Mir says it was an ugly win and it wont happen again. I think he's well aware of what he needs to do to be back on that higher level.

He said he took his training for granted and didnt diet well for that fight.


As for Tim, I dont think it was a fluke. A win's a win. Especially one where someone snaps your arm. Something thats not too commonplace. I think Tim was just down talking that fight and since he's defeated AA twice he's just being cocky now. Before he beat AA the first time, Im sure if you had asked Tim about the Mir fight, he most likely say that he got caught and just couldnt shake Mir, but now its just him being cocky because he beat AA twice and Mir has put on two horrbile exhibitions. I give Mir two more fights before I'd say he's out of the game.
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:32 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Don't compare him to Hallman. This guy is more of a Penny Hardaway or Grant Hill. The guy was in an accident and hasn't been able to recoup. He WAS better then Tim and was developing into one of the top HW submission fighters, now he's just fat and washed up. I suggest UFC has him fight Vera to officially end all this crap.

I defenitely wouldnt want to see him fight Vera now, it just wouldnt be fair. Make him fight someone like Sherner or something.
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Old 08-02-2006, 12:55 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Its pretty hard to watch mir sink to where he is now. He had so much natural talent and was looking to become one of the top heavys in the world. If he gets back into the gym and slims down he could be a force again, although I don't think he has the drive to do it.
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According to the post fight interview, Mir says it was an ugly win and it wont happen again. I think he's well aware of what he needs to do to be back on that higher level.

He said he took his training for granted and didnt diet well for that fight.


As for Tim, I dont think it was a fluke. A win's a win. Especially one where someone snaps your arm. Something thats not too commonplace. I think Tim was just down talking that fight and since he's defeated AA twice he's just being cocky now. Before he beat AA the first time, Im sure if you had asked Tim about the Mir fight, he most likely say that he got caught and just couldnt shake Mir, but now its just him being cocky because he beat AA twice and Mir has put on two horrbile exhibitions. I give Mir two more fights before I'd say he's out of the game.
I agree with ya on that one. Seems like he is a little more cocky now.
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