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post #31 of 143 (permalink) Old 09-04-2013, 11:04 PM
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i think this shows alot ... 2nd time in 4? ufc fights hes been rubber legged ... granted hes come back but... rubber leg it against an animal like jones or even machida its lights out for tex ...

imo his stock just went down .....

p.s was it just me or did it look like he had a rough weight cut?
Yes he did have a horrible weight cut. I agree with your sentiments. Though i do think jones would beat him, jones hasnt really proved to have those punches that put you on queer street standing (Besides elbows obviously). I think its much more likely jones would pick him apart rather than landing one big punch. Glover vs machida though... now thats a match i have no idea where it would go. Hell even glover vs hendo (even though hes fighting vitor)

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I wish people would quit saying, "This shows _____ wouldn't fare well against _____". None of you fruits have any idea what would happen in a title fight. Jones could clock Glover, rush in just as Bader did, and eat two flush shots that end his night. Glover's certainly got things to work on, just like every other fighter out there, including the champions. But I don't think many people gave Chris Weidman a snowball's chance in hell of knocking out Anderson Silva.

I wouldn't even call myself a diehard Glover fan. But the manner in which some people so casually dismiss him is ridiculous. Yes he's been stunned once or twice. But he's also dominated and won all of his fights. How one outweighs the other is beyond me.
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I wish people would quit saying, "This shows _____ wouldn't fare well against _____". None of you fruits have any idea what would happen in a title fight. Jones could clock Glover, rush in just as Bader did, and eat two flush shots that end his night. Glover's certainly got things to work on, just like every other fighter out there, including the champions. But I don't think many people gave Chris Weidman a snowball's chance in hell of knocking out Anderson Silva.

I wouldn't even call myself a diehard Glover fan. But the manner in which some people so casually dismiss him is ridiculous. Yes he's been stunned once or twice. But he's also dominated and won all of his fights. How one outweighs the other is beyond me.
I have to agree. It's as if people expect Tex to have to steamroll everyone without taking any damage in order to have a chance against JBJ. I believe Jones will finish anyone he can take down and get on top of, but if it stayed on the feet Tex would smash him.

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Great job by Glover, rolled with the punches against the cage then landed the perfect combo. Was not in trouble during that last stage of the fight. Bader once again shows he is more athlete than fighter.

Tex got tagged earlier, but if this makes you feel like all of a sudden Glover has no chin and no chance at the title, you have a lot to learn about fighting.

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IMO Glover is no.2 in the division. Would love to see him V Gustaf







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Great job by Glover, rolled with the punches against the cage then landed the perfect combo. Was not in trouble during that last stage of the fight. Bader once again shows he is more athlete than fighter.

Tex got tagged earlier, but if this makes you feel like all of a sudden Glover has no chin and no chance at the title, you have a lot to learn about fighting.
Bader hits hard so I would never say he's got a weak chin. I just think he's got some holes in his strike defense.

It was good to see him mix it up with some higher competition but it also showed him some things he needs to work on.

I think Tex's biggest issue is going to become age. He's 33 (34 in one month) and I know it's be done before, but I think he's going to go down as another one of those fighters that you wish had put this all together in their 20s.

Glover had some Visa issues that kept him out of the US, which is a huge shame seeing that he lost 6 of his peak years.

A fight will always be a fight, but I didn't see anything tonight that I think Jones should be overly worried about.
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I have to agree. It's as if people expect Tex to have to steamroll everyone without taking any damage in order to have a chance against JBJ. I believe Jones will finish anyone he can take down and get on top of, but if it stayed on the feet Tex would smash him.
My bigger take away was how much Bader was landing on Tex. Bader is known as a sloppy and slow striker and he was landing pretty decently on Tex. Bader wasn't beating his ass or anything, except for those couple of last shots, but for a guy who is supposed to be one of the best strikers at LHW avoiding someone like Bader should be pretty easy.

Jones probably won't KO Tex, that is very likely true. But if the fight stays standing Tex will eat tons of shots from JBJ and give basically nothing in return. He couldn't keep Bader at range and he couldn't avoid Bader's slow punches (although they looked crisper than normal). Like Weidman if Tex gets a title shot he always has the mandatory minimum 1% Serra chance to win, it just doesn't look like the fight will be all that competitive.

The other thing that concerns me is the clinch. Bader controlled Tex way too easily in the clinch against the cage. With someone with his wrestling chops I thought we would have seen him play the over/under hook game and instead he just sort of accepted it and stopped trying to eat punches.
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I'm pretty sure Grant will look to close the distance immediately and look for a submission. Very interesting fight. I'd favor Bendo over Grant because of his athleticism and strength. Pettis is far more versatile, but Grant is extremely strong.

Age old contest of keeping his distance vs someone who wants to close the distance. Sturdy test for the newly crowned champion.
Exactly this. If Grant's going to find a way to win, he's got to close the distance and work his clinch/dirty boxing game. Ideally, he's got to keep Pettis up against the cage and work his short hooks and uppercuts as well as knees and punches to the body. If he makes Pettis work all fight and mixes in his takedowns so that Pettis has to defend them, he's got a shot. He needs to vary his attack and he can't give Pettis any room to breathe. Easier said than done, though. Exciting match-up between two incredibly well-rounded fighters.

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IMO Glover is no.2 in the division. Would love to see him V Gustaf
Glover vs Gus interests me also but I think Glover will get Jones after Gus loses to him. I can see a Glover vs Gus fight being setup after they both lose to Jones however.
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Glover vs Gus interests me also but I think Glover will get Jones after Gus loses to him. I can see a Glover vs Gus fight being setup after they both lose to Jones however.
I'll have to see how well Gus has improved his wrestling, but if he has improved it he'd take Glover out imo. And if he's really made significant improvement the Jones fight just got real interesting. If Gus stops the take down Jones might be in trouble quickly.

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