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Ryan Bader 4 33.33%
Glover Teixeira 8 66.67%
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:01 PM   #61 (permalink)
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I don't think anyone is tailor made for Jon's attributes, hence his ridiculously dominating success.
He meant Teixeira is tailor made to be destroyed by Jones which I pretty much agree with.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:02 PM   #62 (permalink)
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He meant Teixeira is tailor made to be destroyed by Jones which I pretty much agree with.
His wording was a bit confusing; then yes, I agree.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:09 PM   #63 (permalink)
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When I look at the competition Jones had in UFC and the downfall state of some of the big names he did beat I wonder how come people can dismiss Tex abilities and accomplishments so fast in comparison to him.

Just to point out Vitor almost ripped Jones arm apart out of a broken hand, but Jones would right away destroy Tex, a strong ADCC level grappler, if he puts him to the ground?

I expect a good match up between them, IF, Jones gets passed through Gus.
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Old 09-05-2013, 06:41 PM   #64 (permalink)
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In all likelihood Jones wins 2 of the toughest fights he's ever had back to back. That being said he probably gets roughed up real bad in both, losing atleast 1 round in each. Jones' toolset is superior to Tex's and Gus' as well as having the physical advantage. I'd give either a chance against Jones if Jon wasn't so tough, he's proven he won't quit and it's going to take a miracle shot to take Jones out. People used to question Jones's chin and toughness and after his last few fights he seems as tough as anyone, the only guy that is going to beat him is someone like Cormier that can physically dictate where the fight goes. The only way to beat Jones is to sub him or get him moving backwards because his reach just makes it so hard to land any shots with power.
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When I look at the competition Jones had in UFC and the downfall state of some of the big names he did beat I wonder how come people can dismiss Tex abilities and accomplishments so fast in comparison to him.

Just to point out Vitor almost ripped Jones arm apart out of a broken hand, but Jones would right away destroy Tex, a strong ADCC level grappler, if he puts him to the ground?

I expect a good match up between them, IF, Jones gets passed through Gus.
i sincerely doubt we will see Glover throwing up armbars and triangles. Arona was a good ADCC competitor and he is pure top game, more then likely Glover is as well.

He's got a punches chance against Jones and that's about it. though he probably won't be getting ragdolled early as his wrestling is pretty good so there's more of a chance for it to happen.
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i sincerely doubt we will see Glover throwing up armbars and triangles. Arona was a good ADCC competitor and he is pure top game, more then likely Glover is as well.

He's got a punches chance against Jones and that's about it. though he probably won't be getting ragdolled early as his wrestling is pretty good so there's more of a chance for it to happen.
I agree with the above possibilities, but to be honest, who would imagine Vitor would try to armbar Jones rather than blitz him with strikes?
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Bader has got to be more disciplined. It cost him against Tito, Machida, and now Glover. He probably would have lost to the latter two anyway, but his lack of discipline has contributed to his demise in 3/4 of his losses.

I was surprised at how well he was actually doing. He was controlling Glover pretty well with his wrestling and stunned him on more than one occasion. Kudos to Glover for surviving and coming back like that.
Fair argument but he does have a limited skill set anyways, I think he is doomed to be a mid tier fighter
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I agree with the above possibilities, but to be honest, who would imagine Vitor would try to armbar Jones rather than blitz him with strikes?
Vitor is (technically) a bjj blackbelt under the gracie family. He's certainly more well known for his boxing but it didn't surprise me all that much.
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i sincerely doubt we will see Glover throwing up armbars and triangles. Arona was a good ADCC competitor and he is pure top game, more then likely Glover is as well.

He's got a punches chance against Jones and that's about it. though he probably won't be getting ragdolled early as his wrestling is pretty good so there's more of a chance for it to happen.
Disagree...Glover looks fairly fluid on the ground with his movement I fully expect him to have game on his back.
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I would like to see Teixeira beat one of Gustafsson, Evans, Davis, Machida before I could even begin to consider him the 2nd or 3rd best LHW fighter. Heck beating Henderson or Sonnen would raise Teixeira's stock imo.

Liza is right and you as well as others just don't understand it. There is no proof that Teixeira is the 2nd or 3rd best LHW fighter. He might be the 2nd or 3rd best LHW fighter that hasn't already lost to Jones but that doesn't make him the best of the rest. He hasn't faced any of the best yet, his best wins are Bader and Jackson who are barely top 10 fighers now. And Teixeira didn't even look that good against Bader...
I don't see why Davis is mentioned there..but fair enough.

It's just odd given how pitiful guys like Henderson and Evans have looked as of recent that somehow Glover looked worse.

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Gus is a way stiffer fight for Jones than Glover, shouldn't be much debate about that.

Id be more excited to see Glover and Gus fight for the #2 spot than I will be to see either of them fight Jones.
Not really. Gus has no real clear method of victory. His power is pretty overrated and he doesn't even use it anymore...he used to sit down on his punches and throw with bad intentions until he turned into this fancy foot work Cruz wannabe prancing around the cage potshotting.

And his wrestling and overall grappling is still really bad. At least Glover can threaten Jones on the mat or with a guillotine.
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