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post #81 of 143 (permalink) Old 09-06-2013, 11:33 AM
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This showed us that JBJ can get absolutely rocked by Lyoto "LOL" Machida. Dude might as well have shouted out "Here I am! Du-du-du-duuu". The Bones era will be over sooner than any of you think.....
JBJ was not rocked, I don't get why some people keep holding on to this idea that the punch did anything but surprise JBJ. He caught him flat footed and made him stumble as he didn't expect it. It was a good punch, but it didn't rock him.
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JBJ was not rocked, I don't get why some people keep holding on to this idea that the punch did anything but surprise JBJ. He caught him flat footed and made him stumble as he didn't expect it. It was a good punch, but it didn't rock him.
Exactly, Machida did absolutely nothing to Jones. All that happened at UFC 140 was Jones completely destroying Machida.
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JBJ was not rocked, I don't get why some people keep holding on to this idea that the punch did anything but surprise JBJ. He caught him flat footed and made him stumble as he didn't expect it. It was a good punch, but it didn't rock him.
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I have no doubt he has a tight bottom game but that's the last place anyone wants to be when its Jones on top of them, IMO its just too risky.

Its a styles make fights opinion, I see glover as one hell of a fighter though.

As far as Bader goes Tito in his twilight put him on ice, nuff said IMO.
And GSP got lit up by an overweight middle aged lightweight....

One fight =/= a fighter's career.

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"....rock you like a hurricane"
He caught him off guard as I said. But since we are using pictures..

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Bader needs a chin, that was not a punch that should have dropped him..
I knew this would be the end result but bader has a weak ass chin
The problem wasn't his chin, he got caught by a hard punch that he didn't see coming while moving forward trying to land his own punch.
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I think people were caught up in the fact that Machida was actually competitive with Jones in the first round while many were expecting him to get steamrolled. At that point, Machida was really the first guy to show any kind of resistance to Jones (until the second round) but I wouldn't quite say Machida "won the round".
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Only the third time I've heard of someone thinking Machida didn't win the first round against Jones. Richard Bertrand and Jeff Blatnick are the other two.

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Only the third time I've heard of someone thinking Machida didn't win the first round against Jones. Richard Bertrand and Jeff Blatnick are the other two.
I may need to watch that fight again, but I remember a pick 'em round where neither fighter did that much to take it. In which case the nod should go to the champion.

Not that it matters since, y'know, there are no robberies in a fight in which someone gets dropped and then choked unconscious.
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This post should be archived to demonstrate the general idiocy of MMA fans.


Apparently a guy can be a bust or overhyped if he's probably the 2nd or 3rd best LHW in the world...behind arguably the most talented fighter to date.

You are on some magic mushrooms if you think some unstoppable destroyer that is going to "give Jones too much trouble" is just going to pop up nonchalantly anytime soon. No one said this about Glover other than he was probably a top 10 LHW talent long before the big names stopped ducking him.


He also represents the toughest challenge to Jones currently, as like Pettis, hes dangerous everywhere. He has the stiker's chance of landing something big and the scrambler's chance. Jones leaves his neck in for a guillotine on a takedown it could be over, and I'm willing to bet Glover is more dangerous on his back than a guy like Vitor Belfort.

Not favoring him by any means, clearly when you do the sort of things Jones has done in this sport you deserve to be the favour it's over everyone, but I certainly wouldn't bet on Jones hiven the number of viable ways he could lose this fight.


I do love though, that every time a guy doesn't steamroll another to 10 guy you have people that have nothing to add but "Myeh! He can't beat the champion!"

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Good post Roflcopter. I pretty much agree, although I expected people to criticize Glover a lot.

The thing is, Glover is also dangerous when he's vulnerable. Some guys get hurt and they curl up into a little ball waiting for the referee to pull their opponent off of them. Glover rolled with the punches pretty well and then countered getting the TKO victory. People making claims that he has a weak chin is laughable. Bader may not be the best striker, but he hits like a truck. Glover managing to stay calm, not be finished, and to turn around and finish the fight himself shows the type of toughness and will he has. He's a mature fighter that doesn't wilt.

His striking defense isn't the best, but every fighter has some flaws. Fortunately for him, he has one hell of a chin and knows how to deal with adversity in the cage. The fight had me worried, but overall, I'm happy with the result. Glover is a complete fighter in my opinion.

He has very good striking, power, great wrestling, legit BJJ, outstanding conditioning, solid chin, strong will and heart, and he trains with Chuck Liddell, my favorite fighter of all time. Glover has some holes in his game, but I think the pros out weigh the cons by a fair bit. He may not and probably will not beat Jones which is not an insult at all considering Jones is the very best in his weight class, but Glover is a legit threat considering he's dangerous no matter where the fight goes. There is no comfort zone with this guy.

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Roflcopter, no offence, but do you understand anything about this sport?

You do?? Oh, then why do you talk about Alexander as if he is a ballerina when in fact he is a great great fighter who convincingly beat back to back idiots like Rua and Thiago Silva. They have not been the same since their mauling.

I don't know how Bader lost to this overrrated Teixeira, but I do know that it wouldn't happen again. Had Bader used his superior intelligence and developed a submission on Teixeira the moment he busted his weak chin, we would be seeing a worthy strapping LHW contender, but now we have to hear all this ringing about how this bum, who got his butt kicked by Ed Herman, is going to be the one to beat Alexander. No, this will not happen. Alexander is ten years younger than Texeira, and you Rolf think he has less chance of beating Jones?

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Did you seriously bring up his loss to Ed Herman? You must be trolling. That loss was 8 years ago, that can't be held against someone now. I'll use your logic for a second. Let's bring up Anderson Silva's loss to Daiju Takase while we're at it. Daiju must be a top 3 middleweight. Oh, and your boy Gus got submitted in the first round by Davis. He must have no ground game huh? That was a while ago but I'll just refuse to consider the fact that he has improved. He's still that kid because no one can improve right?

Your next point, Glover does not have a weak chin. If he did, he wouldn't have made that great come back. Bader isn't a great striker, but he is a powerful dude. Glover surviving that and getting the come from behind win shows that he has a good chin and a strong recovery time, not to mention heart.

Oh, and calling Gus' two biggest wins "idiots" doesn't help your cause for saying he's the best at 205.

I mean no disrespect, but I think you're probably trolling. If you're not.. Well, you can think Glover is overrated, you can even think he isn't a top 5 fighter, but give credit when it is due. Bringing up losses from 2005 is grasping at straws and calling him a bum is just ridiculous. Even if he does lose to Gus if/when they fight, would that make him a bum? Not at all. You must really hate this guy.

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