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Teixeira 20 83.33%
Bader 4 16.67%
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Old 08-30-2013, 01:37 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Not sure the point of this fight, Tex will steamroll Bader. Bader has one chance, and that is to hold Tex against the cage and win a decision. It's too bad they didn't make Gus fight Tex before Jones so we could see Jones/Tex instead.
because that would be pointless. Not only would it delay/ruin a title shot for one of them, but also gus is on a 6 fight winning streak, all of which have been either a finish or a dominating decision win.
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:13 AM   #12 (permalink)
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I'm telling ya, if Glover gets passed Bader, he needs to fight Davis to solidify number 1 contendership.

Machida was next in line for a title shot and Davis just beat him.... that seems a lot more meaningful than a win over a guy Machida just dropped like a bad habit.

I need another fight out of both of them and it's time their path's crossed.
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Old 08-30-2013, 11:22 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I think Dana said Tex gets next with a win.

Tex beats Bader all day. Not sure if Bader has any advantage in this fight.
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Old 08-30-2013, 12:19 PM   #14 (permalink)
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He very well might be, but it's weird that he can be ranked that with out fighting anyone in the top 5... or at the very least top 10.
It's based on dominance. Texeira has absolutely wrecked everyone he's fought in the last 8 years, most in the first round, some in the 2nd and only a couple of decisions.

Among the guys he's wrecked have been a top 10 (at the time) in Rampage and some solid names like Te Tuna, Kingbury, Maldonaldo, Sokoudjou, and Ricco. If he adds another top 10 in Bader to that list, it's a pretty decent resume.

He has yet to show a single vulnerability in his chin, wrestling, TDD, cardio or sub defense. He has bricks for hands and decent mix of technique and aggression standing, Olympic wrestling creds even if from a non wrestling powerhouse country, and a 2nd degree black belt in BJJ. Even his mental game is solid; the guy never talks trash, gives respect but never awe, never looks flustered/scared/angry/eager whatever. Just goes in there, does his job and does it well, that's a tough guy to break.

While other top LHW contenders like Davis or Gustaf have looked one dimensional or vulnerable in some areas, Glover has shown no such weaknesses. That's why he's ranked so high in spite of lacking top 5 wins.
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It's based on dominance. Texeira has absolutely wrecked everyone he's fought in the last 8 years, most in the first round, some in the 2nd and only a couple of decisions.

Among the guys he's wrecked have been a top 10 (at the time) in Rampage and some solid names like Te Tuna, Kingbury, Maldonaldo, Sokoudjou, and Ricco. If he adds another top 10 in Bader to that list, it's a pretty decent resume.

He has yet to show a single vulnerability in his chin, wrestling, TDD, cardio or sub defense. He has bricks for hands and decent mix of technique and aggression standing, Olympic wrestling creds even if from a non wrestling powerhouse country, and a 2nd degree black belt in BJJ. Even his mental game is solid; the guy never talks trash, gives respect but never awe, never looks flustered/scared/angry/eager whatever. Just goes in there, does his job and does it well, that's a tough guy to break.

While other top LHW contenders like Davis or Gustaf have looked one dimensional or vulnerable in some areas, Glover has shown no such weaknesses. That's why he's ranked so high in spite of lacking top 5 wins.
Well as I mentioned in the quoted post, I'm not trying to deny any of his talent. I just think as far as ranking goes, potential is a difficult thing to sort.
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It's based on dominance. Texeira has absolutely wrecked everyone he's fought in the last 8 years, most in the first round, some in the 2nd and only a couple of decisions.

Among the guys he's wrecked have been a top 10 (at the time) in Rampage and some solid names like Te Tuna, Kingbury, Maldonaldo, Sokoudjou, and Ricco. If he adds another top 10 in Bader to that list, it's a pretty decent resume.

He has yet to show a single vulnerability in his chin, wrestling, TDD, cardio or sub defense. He has bricks for hands and decent mix of technique and aggression standing, Olympic wrestling creds even if from a non wrestling powerhouse country, and a 2nd degree black belt in BJJ. Even his mental game is solid; the guy never talks trash, gives respect but never awe, never looks flustered/scared/angry/eager whatever. Just goes in there, does his job and does it well, that's a tough guy to break.

While other top LHW contenders like Davis or Gustaf have looked one dimensional or vulnerable in some areas, Glover has shown no such weaknesses. That's why he's ranked so high in spite of lacking top 5 wins.
Hard to look bad when the best person you have fought(by far) is an unmotivated Rampage. Teixeira is clearly a good fighter but I really don't know that he can hang with the top of the division(Jones, Gus, Rashad, Davis, Machida etc).
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Hard to look bad when the best person you have fought(by far) is an unmotivated Rampage. Teixeira is clearly a good fighter but I really don't know that he can hang with the top of the division(Jones, Gus, Rashad, Davis, Machida etc).
And Gustaf's best win is a broken down, shell of his former self, Shogun. What is the difference?

And Rampage was actually motivated in that fight. He was fighting for his next contact. He came in at like 204 lbs. You are thinking of the Bader/Page fight.

The only guy that Gustaf beat that Tex doesn't really have on his resume is Thiago Silva. Big deal. Not sure how Gustaf has such the resume and is so established. Yet Tex isn't? Makes little sense.
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because that would be pointless. Not only would it delay/ruin a title shot for one of them, but also gus is on a 6 fight winning streak, all of which have been either a finish or a dominating decision win.
I agree, Gustafsson vs Teixeira would be a stupid move for the reasons you stated. Gustafsson has already earned his shot at Jones and Tex is another win or two away from getting his. It's pointless to make them clash at this point.
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And Gustaf's best win is a broken down, shell of his former self, Shogun. What is the difference?

And Rampage was actually motivated in that fight. He was fighting for his next contact. He came in at like 204 lbs. You are thinking of the Bader/Page fight.

The only guy that Gustaf beat that Tex doesn't really have on his resume is Thiago Silva. Big deal. Not sure how Gustaf has such the resume and is so established. Yet Tex isn't? Makes little sense.
I don't think either have the resume, I actually posted that in the GusFan's thread. I think all these new guys still have a lot to prove.

Unfortunately the UFC needs new title contenders, so guys are getting flung to the top.
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Somewhat valid point although I consider Silva, Matyushenko and Hamill a step up from guys like Maldonado and Kingsbury.

Rampage hasn't been truly motivated in a long time though and I don't believe he was in that fight either(although he should of been).
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