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Jon Jones (c) 44 81.48%
Alexander Gustafsson 10 18.52%
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:00 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Jon Jones by tko in the first. Not sure why anyone thinks this will even be remotely competitive. The light heavyweight division is horrible. Jon Jones only decent match up was Machida & Rashad. He's fought shogun who hasn't been consistent since losing to Jones, rampage (really?), they brought up 2 middleweight fighters & the competition has been WAY overrated. This won't even be a fight tonight.

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Bones rarely goes in a dominates the first. He did to little Chaelly boy. But other than that fight vs. a middleweight, he rarely goes in and dominates off the bat. And I think Gustaf is tough enough to last more than 1 round.

I think Bones would be wise to look to go to the ground. I don't think Gustaf has much in the wrestling department (he could try to stay on the outside and try to be quicker to the punch, but not in close wrestling scenarios) and I don't think he has nearly a good enough ground/off back game, although it is hard to know that as he hasn't been there much as of late. But if Bones decides to stand for long periods, I think the fight becomes much closer.

I have Bones winning with elbows or a sub in teh 3rd round.
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Old 09-21-2013, 12:43 PM   #102 (permalink)
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I just think Greg Jackson will implement a safer approach with Guss. Phil Davis had his way with him taking him down & I just don't see why this would be any different.. I like the match up if it would be just a stand up fight but I don't think Jon Jones will risk it. I can agree about a 2nd or 3rd rd stoppage because they will prob feel each other out. I really hope I'm wrong.
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:13 PM   #103 (permalink)
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I just think Greg Jackson will implement a safer approach with Guss. Phil Davis had his way with him taking him down & I just don't see why this would be any different.. I like the match up if it would be just a stand up fight but I don't think Jon Jones will risk it. I can agree about a 2nd or 3rd rd stoppage because they will prob feel each other out. I really hope I'm wrong.
Phil Davis didn't really dominate Gustaf with wrestling. At the time Gustaf was basically a kickboxer. And Gustaf avoided TDs in that fight. He was caught in an anaconda during a scramble where he avoided a TD.

You can't just look at a fight years ago and apply it now anyway. You don't think Gustaf has got any better??? Gustaf was new to the UFC and sort of new to MMA.

That said, Phil Davis isn't Bones. Bones has way better MMA TDs. So I agree, I imagine he can take Gustaf down at will if he gets his hands on him, especially in the clinch. But the Phil Davis fight from more than 3 years ago has no influence on that opinion. Gustaf actually did very well in that fight until he was caught.
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:37 PM   #104 (permalink)
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But it does. Phil Davis was as raw as Gus was back then he just had a better base. Do I think he's gotten better since that fight? Yes. Do I think that matters? No. I think Jones mma wrestling is way better then gus defense & if they clinch which is a Gus strength he's taken down, Jones shoots he's taken down. Gus standing & throwing on the outside don't mean much when the opponent has the same reach. Jones isn't a brawler so it won't be a scenario where it gets crazy & Jones gets clipped from a brawl, he won't showboat like Anderson so he won't get clipped that way either. Best case for Gus would prob rush the pace & keep throwing right down the pipe & try to transition back to his feet quickly like Chuck Liddell. That's my opinion & we'll see but bones will dictate the tempo. The only fighter able to dictate the tempo was Lyoto & he eventually got caught. I would like Gus to win but if I was to bet I would put all money on bones by stoppage before the championship rounds.
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:42 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Phil was raw, but Phil was also coming off a great collegiate wrestling career. His wrestling was in full gear. To stay away from TDs from a guy like that says something when your take down defense was at its earliest stages. Like I said Bones is way better than Phil Davis ever will be. But the Phil fight says close to nothing...since it wasn't as if Phil took Gustaf down with ease all fight. You said Phil had his way. And that is just false.

Brock was more raw than Phil when he came into the UFC. But stopping a Brock TD even then is still a big deal.

Of course if we are betting we are all taking Bones on a straight bet. The dude is a 9 to 1 favorite.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:54 PM   #106 (permalink)
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How many rounds you think this will last...
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I will be surprised if this doesn't make the Barao/Wineland fight look competitive, I think unless Gus has secretly been building a bad ass guard then Jones runs through him. Gus has a good build for BJJ and he should have come prepared to use it.
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How many rounds you think this will last...
Gus is lucky to make it to the 3rd.
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2nd round, but not as fast as Barao.
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Old 09-21-2013, 11:57 PM   #110 (permalink)
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Wait a sec...

In the preview, did Jones just say "It's not about this fight, it's about being the greatest man ever"?

Did I hear that wrong?
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