I got the fight I wanted to see. But I must say Gustaf's heart gave out on em in the 4th and 5th. I don't think he wanted it bad enough. It looked like he turned into survival mode. His trainers should have drilled it in his head that the last five minutes would define the rest of his career.
LHW title holder showed determination even while getting busted up and taken down.
Had nothing to do with heart. That elbow swayed the fight plain and simple. Gus was already tired and that elbow rocked him hard. That tired and hurt it is hard to make a full recovery.
I think it is probably his legs hurting from all the kicks. I think it was after the rampage fight he was in a wheelchair with bags of ice on his legs.
Really bad decision by any judging criteria. Gus kept it standing(octagon control), constantly attacked (aggression). imposed his will and gameplan (effectiveness), outstruck Jones, and did more physical damage.
This is pretty much exhibit A on why MMA forum goers have laughable opinions on judging.
Gus literally went for more failed takedowns than Jones in the first 3 rounds of the fight...Jones didn't start shooting a lot until getting lit up in the 4th before the elbow.
Secondly, it's a garbage criteria all around and not heavily weighed by the rules, but giving up the center of the cage like Gus did all night is considered losing in octagon control.
Not even going to address the rest of the garbage.
Unsuprisingly pretty much everyone on a boxing forum Im posting at agrees Jones won the fight.
I guess actually watching a sport where you need an attention span and have to actually see which punches are landing or not gives you better eyes for these sort of things.
Not to mention the amazing hatewagon for Jones doesn't exist there..so there's that.
Yeah bullshit, boxing fans are retards, they still think pacman is gonna whoop floyd. Boxing fans know even less about MMA. Ironic what you say lands and doesnt when most of jone's stuff didnt land decent until the 4th round
I gave it to Bones 48-47 by winning rounds 2, 4, and 5. It was very close though and I could understand having Gus win the fight, but I won't argue with the judges scoring.
That's some bullshit right there. Gus won the first three rounds and should be champ right now. I'd love to hear the judge defend his 49-46 score. Ridiculous.
I had it 3 rounds to 2 for gus. I would really like to see an immediate rematch and i think it proves that jones reach advantage(and how he employs it) is one of his defining traits. His error of invincibility to me dimmed a little tonight but he works hard and is the Champ for a reason but i dont believe he won that fight. And im a huge Bones fan. How Gus preformed i have to eat some crow i never really thought he was that good, probably because of his akward style doesnt really translate as a dominant fighter but how he preformed and acted so gracious in a defeat was amazing. But i think going forward your gonna see a Jon Jones more focused on wrestling. Like a GSP after he lost to Matt Sera.
Gus hit Bones in the face about 100 times more than Bones hit him in the face and defended 11/12 takedowns while landing two of his own. None of that is even debatable.
I'm going to have to rewatch rounds 1-3, but I had Gus winning all of them by a fair margin.
Rewatch the second round. While Gus threw a lot, very little landed. So you have Bones who is landing his kicks and those two head kicks. It was a close round, but I think it was pretty easy to see why Jones won it. Round 1 & 3 were clearly Gus though.
I had Jones winning 4 and 5, and then there was a round either 2 or 3 (can't remember which) that was extremely close and I thought that they would prob give it to Jones.
So overall I thought Jones edged it, but it was so close that I could have seen it going to either guy.
I agree. His face would be much more busted if he is smaller and big chunk off his dominance is because his size. We saw that now. And Gusaf is smller than him with shorter range. I hate Jones open fist and fingers in your face style. He wasnt using it this time as he couldnt but I hate that.
Really close fight, I thought Gus won, however it's interesting to see Jones vs someone with the same physical gifts. Brings up the question how would phil davis do in there.
No hail mary spinning elbow and Gus is the new champ.
Gus should get a rematch after Glover. He boxed Jones up the whole fight. Gave Gus 1,3 and maybe 2 need to watch it again. Either way Jon looked uncomfortable and slow the whole fight. I'd take Gus in a rematch.
what people need to remember is that this was an extremely close fight that could go either way and nobody really beat the other and when that happens the win always goes to the champ. To become the new champ you have to decisively beat champ and there has to be no question. The Judges will always favor the champs in close fights like this.
some don't like it but I guess its a good luxury that you earn for being champ and it makes sure that you have to truly without a doubt be the better fighter to dethrone the champ.
Ya im cool with the decision overall. I always need to rewatch big fights because i get rly emotional during them. Was slammi g in my desk and yelling a lot during this one haha. I still think gus took it but i see how jones could have taken it too. Very close and extremely entertaining fight. Jones now looks way less invincible...
Jones had to be carried from the cage and limped his way backstage with a busted face. Gus walked out just fine. Its clear who the real winner is and who has the advantage in the rematch.
Remember when Condit whitewashed Rory and Rogan and the MMA plebs acted like Rory outstruck him with all of his murderous right hands to the shoulder? :laugh:
Remember when Rampage beat the shit out of Griffin for 4 rounds and Forrest won with an occasional slap to the leg? :laugh:
Yeah man, Gustaffson clearly didn't have a huge cut on his face.
I had 1 and 3 going to Gustafsson, 4 and 5 going to Jones and thought 2 could have gone either way. I wouldn't say this was an outrage, but I felt like if I were judging the fight as a whole I would have given it to Gustafsson. But That's not how this game works!
This fight was also a really good example of how far mma has come. The skillset here demonstrated how different stand up mma is to boxing, as jones u orthadox strikes triumphed. Also i was very impressed woth both of these athletes cardio. These are big guys, and for 20 minutes they kept up an intense pace. Neither gassed until round 5...which for a lhw must be a record.
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