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Demian Maia 35 89.74%
Jake Shields 4 10.26%
Draw 0 0%
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:11 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I don't understand how anyone can even come up with that assessment. Jake has had the better MMA career.
Jake Shields' best win in the UFC is a highly controversial decision against Martin Kampmann.

Needless to say, his ability is greatly overstated.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:13 PM   #42 (permalink)
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Jake Shields' best win in the UFC is a highly controversial decision against Martin Kampmann.

Needless to say, his ability is greatly overstated.
His overall wins in MMA are better then Maia's. He has also held a major MMA title. It's not debatable really, Jake has had the more successful career to this point.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:18 PM   #43 (permalink)
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Beating up mid level fighters in XC and SF isn't too impressive .

His buddy Nick Diaz is pretty much in the same boat.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:20 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Going with Maia.
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Old 10-08-2013, 03:23 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Beating up mid level fighters in XC and SF isn't too impressive .

His buddy Nick Diaz is pretty much in the same boat.
Those letters on the glove don't always tell the whole story. Jake has win over high level fighters. There is no way anyone can honestly think Maia has had a better career to this point. It's just incorrect.
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Wow the vote total doesn't really show how close this fight really is. Neither guy has the power to even make the other guy blink. Shield's winning should surprise anyone.
Maia Might not be very technical but ask fighters if he hits hard and get back to me on this statement. Sonnen isn't the first fighter to say he didnt expect to be hit so hard by Maia.

Shields doesn't have power but he's got sound fundamentals though, more so than he's given credit for anyway. I think Jake wants this fight standing and on the cage so he can work the clinch and control.

Maia I think wants top control on the ground or to kickbox and catch Shields with something, he certainly doesn't want to pull guard in this one or start from bottom. Jake might not be a "better" BJJ practitioner but he's on the same level and when your opponent is that skilled you just dont give up advantageous positions.

I think he could catch Jake standing but I dont think he can fitch him. This could be a slow fight that favors Jake or a fast paced fight that favors Maia either way im watching!
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Those letters on the glove don't always tell the whole story. Jake has win over high level fighters. There is no way anyone can honestly think Maia has had a better career to this point. It's just incorrect.
Yeah because clearly the Paul Daley's and Nick Thompson's of the world that Shields was beating on CBS are super high level.

What's his best win during that run, Robbie Lawler? Old ass, non roided , weight drained Hendo with a bad back?




At least Maia, for all of his inconsistency at 185 has a ton of uncontroversial if not dominant wins over several top or quality fighters in their primes and in the UFC.
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Yah, more and more we're seeing how non-UFC accolades come at a severely reduced value. Jake hasn't proven a thing in UFC; you might as well say X player is great because he won championships in the minor leagues (but not quite).

I get that he had a nice run and putting Henderson on your list is great notch. I don't like to tarnish figher's wins but that one does seem a little less impressive considering context.

Maia has had a line of solid wins in the big show and looked fairly dominant doing it.
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... but on the feet, with these two, it could get silly fast.
and the winner by sissy slap fight.....
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Yeah because clearly the Paul Daley's and Nick Thompson's of the world that Shields was beating on CBS are super high level.

What's his best win during that run, Robbie Lawler? Old ass, non roided , weight drained Hendo with a bad back?




At least Maia, for all of his inconsistency at 185 has a ton of uncontroversial if not dominant wins over several top or quality fighters in their primes and in the UFC.
Weight drained, injured or not Henderson still destroyed him with a right and Jake stood up to it. So if this stays standing Jake will win the worst fight of all time.

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