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Old 09-07-2013, 01:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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I agree, Hendricks was the one talking about Olympic type drug testing not that long ago and also accepted the VADA testing when asked to do so. Fast forward to today and GSP has offered to test and also pay for both of them out of his pocket. Hendricks needs to step up to the plate, I'm not going to say Hendricks is using with any kind of certainty but that he has not kept his word is a little shady. It's really good to see that GSP is holding everyone accountable.
I didnt know Hendrix instigated this whole affair. That adds an interesting twist.

Putting my sensible cap on for a second, Ape is probably right. He still has two weeks. He'll probably just go through with it before the deadline and that will be that.
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Old 09-07-2013, 01:51 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I guess GSP believes he has access to better stuff that wont be found by VADA testing. I cannot believe that GSP who has physically dominated so many through his career has always been clean himself. Ask BJ Penn and Nick Diaz they both fought him and thought he physique is unnatural.

No one has RAW physically dominated guys his own size like GSP throughout modern MMA history. He does it without having any physical attributes like Jon Jones has (range advantage, sharp elbows or height/weight advantage).

GSP did 50 chin ups at age 16. Can someone grow that strong being that young without using extras ?
I wouldn't really rule out any athlete in MMA that I'm 100% sure has never done anything. As far as I'm concerned though, everyone is innocent unless proven guilty. If one guy that juices can pass a drug test than anyone can so I'd feel silly for pointing fingers.

Anyway, I remember some of the sportier skinny kids smashing out tons of pull ups in PE back in high school.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:05 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I didnt know Hendrix instigated this whole affair. That adds an interesting twist.

Putting my sensible cap on for a second, Ape is probably right. He still has two weeks. He'll probably jut go through with it before the deadline and that will be that.
Hendricks just might sign up before September 22 but that he hasn't stepped up after being so forward about proper testing does make you wonder. Also I don't like that DW stated getting tested for drugs is weird on GSP's part and that this fight could also still take place even if Hendricks does'nt take the test.

I believe GSP should only offer the title shot to Hendricks if he signs up on time and passes the tests like Hendricks said he would.
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Old 09-07-2013, 02:13 PM   #14 (permalink)
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I believe GSP should only offer the title shot to Hendricks if he signs up on time and passes the tests like Hendricks said he would.
I'm sure that's exactly what GSP would like to do. I for one wouldn't blame him if, as you suggest, Hendrix bought up VADA testing to begin with.

Unfortunately, Dana wont quite see it like that.

Still... all eyes are on Hendrix now. Damn, I was looking forward to this fight. If he doesn't do the tests and the fight goes ahead, it will lose some of its shine because of it. At least, it will in my eyes.
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I guess GSP believes he has access to better stuff that wont be found by VADA testing. I cannot believe that GSP who has physically dominated so many through his career has always been clean himself. Ask BJ Penn and Nick Diaz they both fought him and thought he physique is unnatural.

No one has RAW physically dominated guys his own size like GSP throughout modern MMA history. He does it without having any physical attributes like Jon Jones has (range advantage, sharp elbows or height/weight advantage).

GSP did 50 chin ups at age 16. Can someone grow that strong being that young without using extras ?
GSP is a very proud and very smart person. I believe he was the first MMA fighter to start incorporating Gymnastics into his training. He also did not do any conditioning training because he realizes that who ever controls position in the cage is the one who is not going to get tired. He just doesn't strike me as the type of guy who cheats, he strikes me as the type who in school maybe was a smart kid who despised the bully types that cheated. Since people call him out for Roids he probably figures doing Vada will shut people up so he doesnt have to hear This BS. If you really were clean and worked your ass off it would be pretty ******* annoying to have people be like "oh your roiding" I mean BJ Penn while a great fighter not the most concearned about his cardio so maybe BJ should've trained harder instead of surfing.
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Also I don't like that DW stated getting tested for drugs is weird on GSP's part and that this fight could also still take place even if Hendricks does'nt take the test.
White's reaction is not really a surprise. Commercial sports organisations do not care about athletes using PEDs, they care about athletes getting caught and giving the specific sport a bad image. (Actually, sports organisations, at least indirectly, support PEDs with ravenoussness for new records).

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I believe GSP should only offer the title shot to Hendricks if he signs up on time and passes the tests like Hendricks said he would.
Yes, it's up to the clean athletes to challenge their opponents to undergo legit drug testing. The current MMA testing is a joke and it's actually astonishing how any fighter could get caught.
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Guys, relax, Hendrix isn't juicing (probably) he's just a slow reader.

And he may have forgotten how to sign his name.
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I guess GSP believes he has access to better stuff that wont be found by VADA testing. I cannot believe that GSP who has physically dominated so many through his career has always been clean himself. Ask BJ Penn and Nick Diaz they both fought him and thought he physique is unnatural.

No one has RAW physically dominated guys his own size like GSP throughout modern MMA history. He does it without having any physical attributes like Jon Jones has (range advantage, sharp elbows or height/weight advantage).

GSP did 50 chin ups at age 16. Can someone grow that strong being that young without using extras ?
GSP isn't that strong, 50 chinups is not that impressive. I highly doubt he uses enhancements due to the fact that he's always been ripped, he's a low body fat kind of guy. And he doesn't win via physical dominance, he wins via technical prowess. When he fought Matt Hughes there was no strength advantage and against Hendricks I expect the same thing. Being able to do a lot of body weight exercises and having low body fat does not indicate chemical enhancements. I could do 50 chinups at 16 and I'm not a pro athlete, not even close. Guys that haven't always been ripped are usually the ones that take steroids (Gracie, Barnett, Leben etc.)
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I wouldn't really rule out any athlete in MMA that I'm 100% sure has never done anything. As far as I'm concerned though, everyone is innocent unless proven guilty. If one guy that juices can pass a drug test than anyone can so I'd feel silly for pointing fingers.

Anyway, I remember some of the sportier skinny kids smashing out tons of pull ups in PE back in high school.
Who says they were not roiding too ?
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Not looking good for UFC 167, Hendricks and Dana White who apparently thinks proper drug testing is "weird" because GSP is putting everyone on the spot and has even offered to pay for it out of his own pocket. Hendricks only has another two weeks to get this straightened out.





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your headline is misleading, he is subject to the same drug testing every other UFC fighter is, and as a main eventer is very likely to receive special attention already.

He hasn't followed through with the VADA testing and it is weird since he sort of said he would, but in no way or shape is he not getting "UFC 167 drug testing", because VADA testing is not "UFC 167 drug testing".
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