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Old 09-10-2013, 06:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Sweet merciful Jesus, just do the regular testing and stfu about VADA.

I can't believe the level of prima donna today's fighters have become. For some of the toughest men on the planet, they sure do act like women.
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Sweet merciful Jesus, just do the regular testing and stfu about VADA.

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I agree with do both test, but Hendricks is such a fool for insisting GSP is in cahoots with them and trying to tarnish the test results.
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Sweet merciful Jesus, just do the regular testing and stfu about VADA.

I can't believe the level of prima donna today's fighters have become. For some of the toughest men on the planet, they sure do act like women.
Agreed. STFU about VADA & WADA testing and freaking fight and do the regular drug testing they do and if one of them fails the test at least we'll still see the fight.
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The problem is who is paying for these tests from WADA or VADA? They are not cheap. If one fighter is getting his costs "covered" by VADA & the other one isn't, there is a problem.

Forget either testing agency & just follow what is in your contract. Everything else is a distraction.
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The problem is who is paying for these tests from WADA or VADA? They are not cheap. If one fighter is getting his costs "covered" by VADA & the other one isn't, there is a problem.

Forget either testing agency & just follow what is in your contract. Everything else is a distraction.
I dont see a problem with VADA covering GSPs costs. They are voluntary and cost a fair bit. Having GSP use them is good for their validity, leading to more MMA fighters using them. Im sure they would wave the costs of any elite sports person. End of the day, its good publicity.

That this can be seen as being in cahoots, is plain silliness. GSP wants to do VADA because they are free. Not because there's anything dodgy going on with the tests themselves.
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As far as I can tell, this idea that GSP is in cahoots with VADA stems from VADA covering his costs for the test. Am I right, or have I missed something?
That and according to Hendricks the WADA tests were going to be random and the VADA ones you were told when the tests would be conducted. There might be some difference in what they test for and the failure levels as well.
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It took Hendricks years to earn his title shot, there could be millions of dollars at stake.

Can't blame him for avoiding anything that might be the least bit controversial.
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I don't want to directly copy the large post I made in another thread about this, but to summarize:

Hendricks is either ignorant or dishonest about this whole thing. There is no WADA program for them to join. They're talking about an enhanced NSAC program without defined protocols. GSP agreed to do both that and VADA testing three weeks ago. If it doesn't happen, it's because a threatened Kizer pulled the plug on the enhanced testing.

For more info if you'd like:

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/141841-h...ml#post2275465

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The problem is who is paying for these tests from WADA or VADA? They are not cheap. If one fighter is getting his costs "covered" by VADA & the other one isn't, there is a problem.

Forget either testing agency & just follow what is in your contract. Everything else is a distraction.
GSP would be paying $16k for the VADA testing, only half as much if Hendricks doesn't participate. For the enhanced NSAC testing, it would be about $20k, also paid by GSP.

VADA isn't covering the tests for GSP, and Hendricks isn't paying a dime for any of the testing.

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St-Pierre went on to file the necessary paperwork to VADA, which apparently also included paying for both his and his opponent’s testing, a sum of $16,000 ($8,000 of which is refundable, should Hendricks not agree to do the testing). This was simply an attempt to get the ball rolling while Hendricks team reviewed the files, prior to submitting them.

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But according to Beaulieu, “On the conference call there was no ambiguity on who will pay the invoice of whatever test, as Georges always said he will pay for Hendricks. He mentioned it as well during press conferences.” The cost proposed by the NSAC was approximately $20,000.
http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/ufc/gsp-...sting-dispute/
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I don't want to directly copy the large post I made in another thread about this, but to summarize:

Hendricks is either ignorant or dishonest about this whole thing. There is no WADA program for them to join. They're talking about an enhanced NSAC program without defined protocols. GSP agreed to do both that and VADA testing three weeks ago. If it doesn't happen, it's because a threatened Kizer pulled the plug on the enhanced testing.

For more info if you'd like:

http://www.mmaforum.com/ufc/141841-h...ml#post2275465



GSP would be paying $16k for the VADA testing, only half as much if Hendricks doesn't participate. For the enhanced NSAC testing, it would be about $20k, also paid by GSP.

VADA isn't covering the tests for GSP, and Hendricks isn't paying a dime for any of the testing.



http://www.sportsnet.ca/mma/ufc/gsp-...sting-dispute/
Exactly thanks for bringing some actual facts to this discussion.

Hendricks is clearly making shit up. No he's not ignorant, he's juicing.
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