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I just really don't understand Hendricks point,why exactly is he not into Vada because he always sounds kinda wishy washy like one minute they are not as good as WADA the next he is saying they are in cahoots with GSP. I am not clear what his objection is. Like I said before if they think that Vada is not as good as WADA that doesn't explain his refusal to do it since that would mean no bad could come of it unless he is cheating. The link to GSP thing if he is accusing GSP of cheating and Vada turning a blind eye then again does nothing to hurt Hendricks unless he is trying to "even the field" with what he perceives is a roided GSP.




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I just really don't understand Hendricks point,why exactly is he not into Vada because he always sounds kinda wishy washy like one minute they are not as good as WADA the next he is saying they are in cahoots with GSP. I am not clear what his objection is. Like I said before if they think that Vada is not as good as WADA that doesn't explain his refusal to do it since that would mean no bad could come of it unless he is cheating. The link to GSP thing if he is accusing GSP of cheating and Vada turning a blind eye then again does nothing to hurt Hendricks unless he is trying to "even the field" with what he perceives is a roided GSP.
That's how I feel. At first I thought both GSP and Hendricks were suspect, but after seeing more information and this new interview, I have a lot more doubts about Hendricks. "If" he is cheating, I really hope he gets caught and doesn't have time to cycle before the UFC's standard tests.


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His carreer after fighting may be in politics... Will there be any cheese served with this whines. Has any of the accuations been authenticated?

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Its blatantly obvious he should change his nickname to "Bigg PED"

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I used to be a casual Hendricks fan but man, every time he speaks I find myself liking him less and less.

Whether it's the bitching about getting the shot, or bitching about being passed over, or bitching about GSP doing tests, then bitching about not doing tests. He's just a whiny whiny bitch! Can't stand it.
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For someone complaining about being thrown under the bus, Hendricks is doing very little to come out of this looking like the good guy. In an ideal worl the NSAC testing would be concrete enough that someone isn't juicing.

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For someone complaining about being thrown under the bus, Hendricks is doing very little to come out of this looking like the good guy. In an ideal worl the NSAC testing would be concrete enough that someone isn't juicing.
In an ideal world, Hendricks would get popped before the fight and still not get his title shot
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Wow. This just keeps getting better.

This article even has the email chain of the lawyer asking questions. He never asks anything weird at all. Kizer looks terrible, and the UFC's lawyer, Michael Mersch, looks like a moron.

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/11/47...esting-gsp-ufc

I'd post the whole chain, but it seems too long. When I copied and pasted it, it was apparently too many characters, so I suggest people who want to see it read the article. But my favorite parts:

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Please understand that the Nevada Athletic Commission is doing Georges a favor by offering to be involved in this process. The benefit, to Georges, of having them involved is that it brings legitimacy to any pre-fight testing procedures and any results that may come out of said pre-fight testing.

...

As we discussed on the call, Georges stated goal here seems to be to establish, through medical testing, that Georges is a "clean" fighter. You do not need to work with either the NSAC or VADA to establish that in my opinoin [sic]. As you may be aware, there is an accredited WADA level lab in Montreal that you can work with or you can simply have medical testing performed by any board-certified endocrinologist of your choosing to establish this.
I guess someone taking $20k or more for something without ever explaining what they're giving you is a favor? Also, a nebulous NSAC program is more legitimate than VADA, because... they say WADA a lot? Also, you can hire your own doctor to do a testing program on you and that's totally legitimate.

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"This is a serious subject here. And it's unfortunate. This happened a month ago. It wasn't anyone's business. No one asked me about it. And then Marrocco called me and said that it appears that the VADA forces are out there trying to get people to write articles bashing and trying to bully Hendricks into getting part of this and doing this testing."
Follow up on VADA pressure from reporters:

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SB Nation spoke to Margaret Goodman, VADA president, via email and asked if there was any truth to the idea of "VADA forces" pressuring the media.

"Of course not. VADA forces?? I don't even know what that means. I have no idea what he is referring to with that statement, but if people are writing articles or making public statements 'bashing' or 'bullying' an athlete for not joining VADA, those people certainly have no affiliation with VADA and VADA does not condone such behavior." Goodman continued, "VADA respects Mr. Hendricks and his decision to not participate in VADA's program. I believe that both Mr. St-Pierre and Mr. Hendricks should be commended for their commitment to clean sport. The only people affiliated with VADA are listed on our website, and if anybody else is out there 'bashing' or 'bullying,' it is unfair and wholly incorrect to blame it on VADA."

In addition, SB Nation spoke to Marrocco to ask for confirmation that he told Kizer of this effort from "VADA forces" to manipulate the media. Marrocco said that he never said anything of the nature; he had simply spoken to Kizer and asked for details on the situation on a general level.
This is just getting sad now. It used to be kind of funny.

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Wow... just wow!

I encourage anyone with even the remotest interest in this subject to read that link Smacky just posted.
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Wow. This just keeps getting better.

This article even has the email chain of the lawyer asking questions. He never asks anything weird at all. Kizer looks terrible, and the UFC's lawyer, Michael Mersch, looks like a moron.

http://www.sbnation.com/2013/9/11/47...esting-gsp-ufc

I'd post the whole chain, but it seems too long. When I copied and pasted it, it was apparently too many characters, so I suggest people who want to see it read the article. But my favorite parts:

Mersch:



I guess someone taking $20k or more for something without ever explaining what they're giving you is a favor? Also, a nebulous NSAC program is more legitimate than VADA, because... they say WADA a lot? Also, you can hire your own doctor to do a testing program on you and that's totally legitimate.

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Follow up on VADA pressure from reporters:



This is just getting sad now. It used to be kind of funny.
Very nice link, let me summarize for those short on time:

GSP & Camp: Let's drug Test!
Hendricks & Camp: Yay!
GSP & Camp: How bout this one, considered one of the best in the world?
Hendricks & Camp: Whoa hold on now, they got your picture on their website. Uh .. let's do this tiny ass lab in Nevada that just got WADA certification 2 months ago and has tested FIFTY athletes already.
GSP & Camp: Mmmmkay, Kizer about this shady new lab that just popped up, can you tell us something about it? Like what medical professionals or companies are running it etc.? Just so we know they're not shady, the same way Hendricks thinks the much larger and older VADA is. You know, like VADA lists it's professionals and their past qualifications for transparency.
Kizer: No
GSP & Camp: How about just what the program IS.
Kizer: No. We're doing you a favor dammit, give us yo money and no jibba-jabba
GSP & Camp: Alright, nm bro.. let's do it. Let's do both VADA and this new lab of yours.
Kizer: NO DAMMIT, it's too late, aaarrgghh you're unavailable for 10 days, too late! Never mind about the 3 months after that, too late!
GSP & Camp: ....
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