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post #31 of 65 (permalink) Old 10-03-2013, 09:45 PM
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I train with weights and big gloves all the time, that's not the same as having thirty pounds of gut hanging off your belly though. I realize subcutaneous fat distributes itself all around your body but it never looked like he had a ton of fat on his arms to me...
A punch doesn't come only from the arm. It's the whole body that's behind a punch. Try it with a weight vest.

I'm not saying his is the ideal body type, but he certainly has more punching power with that additional mass than without it.
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So, he is fighting DC at LHW now, right?

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...Roy obviously looks like he's trimmed the waist and looks in much better shape. This fight has interesting written all over it. Daniel Cormier ragdolled 265lb Mir against the cage with ease. This fight could get nuts cause who wants to go to the ground? One of the best wrestlers against one of the best groundgame guys. I don't see Cormier daring to take Roy down cause he will get submitted. Roy won't even come close to taking Cormier down. It looks like it's gonna be stand up war and even though DC has decent striking, Roy's one punch bomb has amazing timing. If Roy lands that punch, I think DC is gonna get plowed. We've all seen it. Not only that, Roy's right hand bomb will come even faster now. I think this fight will be a serious grind to a decision....
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A punch doesn't come only from the arm. It's the whole body that's behind a punch. Try it with a weight vest.

I'm not saying his is the ideal body type, but he certainly has more punching power with that additional mass than without it.
I've always wanted to try those weight vests. I figured I'd last about three minutes of intensive training.

Who here has naturally good cardio. You get a big sob comment from me then, cuz my conditioning has always been like well...prolly better than Matt Serra's brother. Nothing is worse than that...lolz!

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I've always wanted to try those weight vests. I figured I'd last about three minutes of intensive training.

Who here has naturally good cardio. You get a big sob comment from me then, cuz my conditioning has always been like well...prolly better than Matt Serra's brother. Nothing is worse than that...lolz!
I have pretty good cardio at the moment and I smoke bud every day and haven't trained vigorously since Thailand, just sparring and shadow because my heavy bag finally gave in.

I do go on 20-30km nature hikes pretty often aswell though and altitude is good for lung capacity.

I am lucky to be able to get super fit really quickly, like when I first went to Thailand on the most recent trip I was in poor condition and threw up during my first two sessions of hard sparring/clinch work, but after those two I was good to go.

I think you have to train pretty hard to be able to do that though, I push myself and I think mental strength is probably the biggest factor in terms of improving cardio. That inability to quit forces you to swim, sinking is no longer an option.







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...Roy obviously looks like he's trimmed the waist and looks in much better shape. This fight has interesting written all over it. Daniel Cormier ragdolled 265lb Mir against the cage with ease. This fight could get nuts cause who wants to go to the ground? One of the best wrestlers against one of the best groundgame guys. I don't see Cormier daring to take Roy down cause he will get submitted. Roy won't even come close to taking Cormier down. It looks like it's gonna be stand up war and even though DC has decent striking, Roy's one punch bomb has amazing timing. If Roy lands that punch, I think DC is gonna get plowed. We've all seen it. Not only that, Roy's right hand bomb will come even faster now. I think this fight will be a serious grind to a decision....
I've always thought that Nelson is a bigger thread to Cormier than many think as Cormier isn't afraid to brawl and that one punch landing from Nelson is enough for mostly anybody.

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I've always wanted to try those weight vests. I figured I'd last about three minutes of intensive training.
But don't do that punching with weight vest too often. Your joints won't like it. My suggestion was only for feeling the power due to additional weight.

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Cardio is something that you usually really can work on. I'm often surprised how pro fighters sometimes show very bad cardio. It's probably, because cardio training is what makes the least fun. Getting exhausted by the exercises is an ugly feeling without the reward of having at least punched someone in the face So often people go light on cardio training. So you either need good mental strength to push yourself, like El Bresko told, or you have to find some cardio training where you can't go light. I once trained in a gym which was on 5th floor and you just couldn't escape the intense cardio training, as it involved running the stairs. Everybody would see that you were going slow if you were the last to arrive. So people there usually had pretty good cardio.
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A punch doesn't come only from the arm. It's the whole body that's behind a punch. Try it with a weight vest.

I'm not saying his is the ideal body type, but he certainly has more punching power with that additional mass than without it.
That's a good point but I'd wonder whether he ends up giving up power after losing weight would depend on how he's trained to get that weight off. If he's gained some quickness, improved his cardio and has more explosive power as a result of a better diet and conditioning program then I'd have to think that those attributes would contribute to his power moreso than that big ass spare tyre around his waist.
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I've always wanted to try those weight vests. I figured I'd last about three minutes of intensive training.

Who here has naturally good cardio. You get a big sob comment from me then, cuz my conditioning has always been like well...prolly better than Matt Serra's brother. Nothing is worse than that...lolz!
Imo they are highly overrated. I used to drill and train with a 25lb vest. I never seen any kind of real result other than sweating more because I had this big thing on that doesn't breathe at all.

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