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post #21 of 61 (permalink) Old 10-07-2013, 04:23 AM
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Both guys have some personal blemishes and I like Sonnen less than wandy but at least Sonnen knows how to get his WWE on Wandy is horrible at it.

To be fair I know fights were fixed, I cant prove it but Sonnen isn't the only fighter to point that out.

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Chael has been the same fighter since he has been back from suspension. Those "Record Breaking" testosterone numbers didnt do much for him.

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Chael has been the same fighter since he has been back from suspension. Those "Record Breaking" testosterone numbers didnt do much for him.
Actually no, Chael has never since had those record breaking numbers inside the cage. Now he walks in at the legal limit of 6:1 or less T/E ratio for TRT exempt athletes. That is still cheating with a doctor's cert, but it's much less than 16:1.

His record breaking numbers did allow him to pummel Anderson for 4.5 rounds. His normal levels of cheating get his ass kicked. Chael doesn't just need to cheat, he needs to cheat big to get anywhere.
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I can't believe anyone is defending Wandi at this point. The guy is an idiot. He's become a privileged rich kid with no guts.

The bottom line is he asked for a fight and then chickened out and now he's trying to save face. He's marred his image forever. He's now making all kinds of threats, but He still wussed out. WWE-like videos don't change anything.

Chael on the other hand has shown a lot of integrity. He stepped up and called Wandi's bluff. Props to him. All respect for Wandi is out the window.
Yep, if there is one thing Wand doesn't have it guts. that guy is just a coward. fighting Mark Hunt and Cro Cop and shit. what a pansy.

Neither Chael or Wanderlei are "cowards".

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Every word is true. Chael cheated and tested over 16:1 Testosterone-Epitestosterone ratio for the Anderson fight, average is 1:1 and even IF he already had TRT exemption which he didn't at the time, the max allowed is 4:1. This is record breaking steroid cheating, no one before or since in MMA has come close to these numbers.

He was convicted of real estate and loan fraud and his realtor license was revoked.

He mocked poor brazilian kids as "playing in the mud" while him and his buddies were enjoying videogames, called all brazilians a bunch of muggers etc.

Wanderlei personally he called washed up, a pile of shit and all his fights being rigged, in addition to telling Anderson he'd slap his wife on the ass, and calling the nogs stupid bumpkins basically etc.

How does it not matter? You think only Wanderlei calling out Chael or making a video about matters enough to make him a coward, but refuse to look at any of the provocations leading up to it? Talk about blind bias. I'll flip the coin and say it doesn't matter that Wand finally cracked, ANY of the things Chael did are far worse than Wand forcing a confrontation after all that provocation, considering that they're, you know, FIGHTERS. It's not like anything even happened.

As I said I don't condone or think it's the right thing, but many others would not have the restraint to put up with such nonsense for so long ... if Chael said what he says to people's faces, he would have been lying face down in a puddle in an alley long ago. Luckily he has the internet and TV to hide behind.

As for Wand being a coward, he has already confronted Chael multiple times alone, and Chael thanked him and saved himself. It's easy to talk big when the crowd cuts it off.


Nail on the head. I find it staggering how people can actually defend Chael Sonnen and call him a person with "integrity". The man is nothing but a fraud, plain and simple. He's a fraud personality (his ventures into politics should spell that out), he might as well have the words "CON MAN" stamped across his forehead, and he's a fraud fighter who'll never become number 1 in ANY division he competes at.

As for this confrontation, I don't agree with Wandy's antics, but predicting who would have won the brawl from an objective point of view is obvious. Chael and Pettis (and I'm a big fan of Pettis) would've ended up lying face down, out cold. Chael might be able to get the better of Wandy in an octagon with rules and limits, but in a street fight, in a 2v4 situation? Wanderlei is a born street fighter, he would soccer kick the crap out of Sonnens head all over the floor.



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Just playing devils advocate here, but 'roid abuser'? Pride Wand says Hello... ...
LOL! So if Wandi does it, he's still wonderful and worshipped. If Chael get's exonerated after being accused of it, well, he's just evil. Some fans are such idiots.

I mean honestly. So Chael juices moderately and legally (like a countless other fighters), Wandi illegally like a maniac. Okay, let's just call it a wash (rolling eyes). Wandi called out Chael and then backed out. Hello? Now he's walking around with a video crew screaming at Chael. Why? He backed out? He insisted the UFC make this fight, and when the did, refused to sign. You seriously respect that?

What did Chael do? Some off color jokes? LOL. Anybody not siding with Chael on this has issues. Insecurity, who knows. But Chael is the respectable party in this feud.

Plus Chael's the only fighter to make fun of Chris Brown. He gets a whole lot of grace for that.
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Both guys are kinda beating the dead horse now. They're probably gonna retire one another and be laughing all the way to the bank. This feud was looking manufactured since jump street.
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Both guys are kinda beating the dead horse now. They're probably gonna retire one another and be laughing all the way to the bank. This feud was looking manufactured since jump street.
No, not both guys, Wandi. Cheal is just being reasonable. Someone called him out and he says, "okay, let's do it." Then Wandi backs out. Some things are black and white. When a guy steps up you give him props.
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No, not both guys, Wandi. Cheal is just being reasonable. Someone called him out and he says, "okay, let's do it." Then Wandi backs out. Some things are black and white. When a guy steps up you give him props.
No, they are both still carrying on about it last time I checked. They know this fight will be a big payday for the both of them. It will most likely still happen. Chael will most likely coast to a decision victory and they can ride off into the sunset as Butch TRT and the Headstomp Kid. Either way, you will cough up money to see it; as will most of us. Nothing is black and white. "Stepping up" is easy when you know you're getting a fat paycheck afterwards.
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...Nothing is black and white....
This statement of course explains why you believe silly things and see nothing as black and white, except for the statement above. You've fallen into the gulf of absolute moral relativism.

The statement, "nothing is black and white" undermines the notion that nothing is black and white, ironically. For you are stating that as black and white that nothing is black and white. I'll let you chew on that. But stop thinking about it if you notice smoke coming out of your ears.
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