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post #21 of 31 (permalink) Old 10-07-2013, 12:10 AM
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The UFC should just ban the use of TRT for its fighters; they don't need the permission of the crooked commissions. This entire thing is absurd and does nothing but give the UFC headaches.
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Ridiculous. Trt doesn't make you tougher against body kicks. It doesn't make you super human and doesn't make you tolerate pain any better.
And trt != being roided up. They're quite different

Being in better shape doesn't make you absorb blows to the body any better....

Astonishing wake up call on my part.

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Ridiculous. Trt doesn't make you tougher against body kicks. It doesn't make you super human and doesn't make you tolerate pain any better.
And trt != being roided up. They're quite different

eek, its all the same man. Lets say we have a fight you and I and its scheduled for four months down the road and you have a exemption. What ends up happening is, you have significantly more time to train than I do because your recovery time has been cut in half and I still have to wait for normal muscle repair. So its more like you had a six to eight month camp wile I had four.

Thats not even the only advantage gained but you get my point.

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Actually, Brandon Vera probably would have beaten non-roided Rothwell.


One of those hard body kicks probably would have folded the out of shape tub of goo that fought Yvel and Hunt.
His only win in the span was against Schaub and he was losing badly until he poked Schaub with his fist. Vera can at least take a bit of a beating before going out.
Are you forgetting the Ben tore his ACL in the first round of the Yvel fight and that Rothwell is renown for being one of the toughest fighters in the HW division. His skill set might be lacking, and it's just sad to see him resorting to TRT, but acting as if he wilts under pressure is just nonsense. Rothwell has a monster chin and is a very hard guy to put away, he's also one of the VERY FEW guys to actually win a fight with a torn ACL, that takes serious heart - regardless of the opponent. The dude was pretty much un-phased by the beating Velasquez put on him, it looked like Cains punishment did virtually nothing to the guy.



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Tearing your ACL doesn't make you fat and out of shape.

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ya the amount of punches ben ate while still managing to stand up vs cain was nuts. dude has a chin for sure.

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Tearing your ACL doesn't make you fat and out of shape.
Call him all the names you want, what ever, but don't try and act like the guy wilts under pressure and is easy to put away, because that's nonsense talk.



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Great to know trt and roids are the same thing. I mean I honestly don't see how people don't get it by now.

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Great to know trt and roids are the same thing. I mean I honestly don't see how people don't get it by now.
Im sorry was I far off with that general statement or are you agreeing with me? can you elaborate? Its a bit hard to pick out what you ment with such little to go on.

TRT isnt even a chemical, its a treatment. For all practical purposes they are basically the same as far as effect. I dont think chemical composition is as important as what it does for a fighter and roids are a synthetic hormone that mimic testosterone, so im not understanding your critique if thats what it was.

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TRT uses one type of Steroid or another in the therapy (even natural testosterone is a steroid when un-naturally taken). And misusing or abusing the testosterone prescribed for TRT is pretty much the exact same thing as using illicit steroids.

Saying they are different, while technically true, is ignoring how similar that are and how much of an advantage abusing TRT can give a fighter.

This is similar to saying that Oxycodone is not the same as Heroine. While technically true, they are not the same thing, but they have pretty much the same effects!

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