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post #101 of 241 (permalink) Old 10-11-2013, 09:45 PM
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I'd much rather be flash KO'd than have my heel ripped in half whilst lying on the floor in excruciating pain. This is entirely subjective and irrelevant to the discussion at hand though.

This is a sport, a competition with rules and safety regulations, not a drunken bar fight where any thing goes. You may see the opponent across the cage from you as an "enemy"and that's fine, what ever pumps you up, but you also need to remember that he is also a competitor, competing in a sporting competition with rules and regulations to permit fighter safety.

So holding onto a brutal submission against the consent of the other fighter is simply wrong in this situation. I can tolerate "one offs", but Palhares has been doing this for years and has no respect for the safety of the other competitors in this sport.

My gut feeling says this guy will be behind bars in a few years time for some thing ridiculous. There's some thing not quite right in this guys head.
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post #102 of 241 (permalink) Old 10-12-2013, 01:42 AM
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My first thought when I saw the leglock wasn't Paul Harris holding on too long, it was damn that ref is a moron.
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My first thought when I saw the leglock wasn't Paul Harris holding on too long, it was damn that ref is a moron.
The ref was contacting Rousimar's body at like three different points from the moment he jumped in, even if we believe he had his eyes closed and was pretending he was in Shangri-La getting massages from pygmis, he had to have know there was some third party trying to stop the action.

Ref shouldn't have to scream in PH's face to get him to stop. PH just didn't want to.

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I think it is laughable that we have pages and pages of guys getting up in arms about this. Yet after a guy pounds on a defenseless and unconscious fighter 3 or 4 times it gets no reaction? Refs each card literally have to DRAG a guy off a guy who is beating on a KO'd fighter.

Perhaps the ref should have pulled Palhares off him. Like he would have if it was a TKO/KO situation.

I do understand his history. And being popped for elevated testosterone certainly doesn't help his cause. But the situation in a vacuum? It is a double standard.

UFC will show HIGHLIGHTS of a guy getting his head pounded in without any ability to defend himself. Yet they are going to pretend like they are big on fighter safety first and will act like Palhares is a bad guy.
This right here. Plus Palhares held for 1-2 seconds longer, and lets not forget the ref was laying on him, so he couldn't just get up, he let go of the lock when the ref was on him.



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Look at the gif carefully. He knows it's over but keeps yanking even more which could very well mean trashed ligaments. Exactly why he does it isn't really relevant - he's a repeat offender and too much of a liability.

This doesn't change even if some of you cry hypocrisy. A previous fault doesn't make this right. Furthermore there are many I'm sure who would have liked to see some sort of penalties for at least Rampage and Henderson.

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Frank Mir did it once.
The fight wasnt called that was the refs fault because he stood there looking at it instead of breaking it up not the same thing at all not even close.
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It's official that he held the hold for 1.3 seconds after Pierce tapped. Not exactly worthy of a lifetime ban, considering he had been trained by a guy who had to submit someone twice in a UFC fight to win it.

My feeling is that this DW decision will be overturned down the line.
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It's official that he held the hold for 1.3 seconds after Pierce tapped. Not exactly worthy of a lifetime ban, considering he had been trained by a guy who had to submit someone twice in a UFC fight to win it.

My feeling is that this DW decision will be overturned down the line.
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It's official that he held the hold for 1.3 seconds after Pierce tapped. Not exactly worthy of a lifetime ban, considering he had been trained by a guy who had to submit someone twice in a UFC fight to win it.

My feeling is that this DW decision will be overturned down the line.
That is obvious bull. Use a timer and look for yourself. Maybe 1.3 seconds after the ref start to push him but he taps for close to 3 seconds. It's all the time you need to damage a joint.

So what, he should be given a free card to keep yanking after the ref calls it because Big Jon screwed up at ufc 37? He should make sure the ref sees the tap and calls it but honestly he doesn't seem to have the mental capabilities to be able to do that. Or he doesn't care. As he apparently has been injuring people in practice perhaps it's a bit of both.

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Can't believe someones trying to justify Palhares here. He's been recorded to do stuff like this several times, it was time to let that moron go.

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