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Old 10-11-2013, 07:45 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I liken Palhares to a 5 year old kid with a gun. No doubt in my mind that Rousimar doesn't mean to hurt guys and isn't 'evil' as some suggest but he is just so god damn simple, he is the MMA equivalent to the waterboy! Thing is you can't continue to let a guy do things like is no matter how much intent is behind it. Like someone said what happens if he gets a RNC on someone and they go up and he holds it for 5 seconds while the ref tries to rip him off. That kind of imagery would set the ufc back years!
Agreed. His fight IQ is just lacking. He's not only hurting people, he's doing other stupid shit. Remember him jumping on the cage to celebrate early against Dan Miller? The 'greasing' incident with Marquardt? The guy's just not all there, and continues to do stupid shit in the cage. It should come as no surprise at all that he's been cut.
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Old 10-11-2013, 07:48 AM   #42 (permalink)
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people seem quite uneducated on this subject. There is always a reason why someone hold on to a hold.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FohRibjEbgI

I remember when Royce didn't let go of Gordeau after Shamrock claimed that he didn't tap out. Fool me once and all that.

Also, Pierce was tapping on the ref most of the time which obviously Palhares wouldn't feel and with that type of lock you are usually looking away from the person.

This guy is going to be a killer at 170 and it's a shame he's cut. I'd love to see him fight Askren.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:05 AM   #43 (permalink)
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It seems that a bulk of fans are vastly understating this mans actions. Heel hooks are nasty business, a brutal submission, and this guy is one of the most devastating heel hook specialist in the UFC. He knows EXACTLY what he's doing in there with these submissions.

Let's put this into perspective (and he's done this many times in the past and been previously suspended for it). He snatches onto a devastating heel hook (an extremely painful move), his opponent is frantically tapping out in pain and desperation, the referee intervenes, but Palhares continues to put his opponent through agonising pain without his consent, potentially causing him career threatening injuries and just causing an absurd amount of pain in general. Also, not only does Palhares refuse to let go after his opponent has tapped, but he actually continues to apply even more torque and pressure to the submission before he eventually lets go.

I'm sorry, but this is borderline psychopathic behaviour, purposely continuing to apply serious amounts of pain and agony to an opponent who is clearly desperate for him to stop. That's the sign of a truly sick human being right there. Good riddance.
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Old 10-11-2013, 08:38 AM   #44 (permalink)
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This is fighting not a day care center, jesus everyone has become sensitive ninnys, i swear most MMA fans (at least 90% suck MMA has the worst fans of any sport) want boring bland fighters with no character or mystique or anything interesting about them.
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This is fighting not a day care center, jesus everyone has become sensitive ninnys, i swear most MMA fans (at least 90% suck MMA has the worst fans of any sport) want boring bland fighters with no character or mystique or anything interesting about them.
Ufc owns, may I ask if you compete? If so professional or amateur? I agree mma is not ballroom dancing but again this isn't his first offense.
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Ufc owns, may I ask if you compete? If so professional or amateur? I agree mma is not ballroom dancing but again this isn't his first offense.
Amateur I do, pro when I get back to the gym hopefully. Really the worst parts aren't leg submissions but instead if you have ever been put in a bad neck crank like I have that is really really bad, and after that I would say a tight guillotine feels like a giant is ripping your head off from the jaw upwards and then armbar would be 3rd.

Leg and foot locks don't even feel that bad compared to those 3 only potentially a lethal straight ankle lock or maybe a toe hold would match that.
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Amateur I do, pro when I get back to the gym hopefully. Really the worst parts aren't leg submissions but instead if you have ever been put in a bad neck crank like I have that is really really bad, and after that I would say a tight guillotine feels like a giant is ripping your head off from the jaw upwards and then armbar would be 3rd.

Leg and foot locks don't even feel that bad compared to those 3 only potentially a lethal straight ankle lock or maybe a toe hold would match that.
You're missing the point. What if a sparring partner continued to apply pressure to your neck after you had tapped out and even continued to tighten the crank? Would you just be ok with that and let it slide? I don't think any one in the right mind would.
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You're missing the point. What if a sparring partner continued to apply pressure to your neck after you had tapped out and even continued to tighten the crank? Would you just be ok with that and let it slide? I don't think any one in the right mind would.
Well yeah I would be bothered because he is my training partner, not my enemy across the cage/ring who wants to hurt me. It's all fair play in actual competition, and I'm much more annoyed when people try and Ko you in the gym then hold on too long for a sub.
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It isn't all fair play. This is a sport, not a gladiatorial battle to the death. There are rules in place that dictate that when your opponent taps, or when the referee steps in, you release the hold, or withdraw from throwing further attacks. Rousimar Palhares doesn't adhere to the rules of the sport. If this was back-street illegitimate fighting then fair enough, fight to injure, but this is a sport. When someone submits, you stop. Simple.
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I feel bad for him (I'd feel for anyone who lost their job), but I can't fault the UFC. It's a business, and now that they're partners with Fox, they have to be different in these kinds of situations. And it's not like the UFC needs Palhares or anything like that.
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