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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old 10-19-2013, 07:39 AM Thread Starter
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The main difference between this 3rd fight and the second

JDS will not run from the takedown but look to punish with knees and uppercuts.. he knows that cain is not a top control lay and pray guy.. cain looks to punish. So Dos santos will not fear getting smoothered, he will look to finish since he can get back up even if cain does take him down.. i think cains boxing is slightly better than JDS but he has less finishing power so unless he can rock or gas JDS i think Dos Santos has a good shot at finishing Cain in the first 2gear rounds...

Rooting for Cain here but he cant just wrecklessly dive for takedowns this time around.. he is going to have top motch striking defense and creatively set his takedowns up...

Head-butting fists and KOing the air is not effective striking.
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So you're saying Dos Santos would have feared a smothering by lay'n'pray wrestler, but because Cain is excellent at wrestling and control but ALSO puts a major beating while doing it, JDS has less reason to be afraid?
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JDS will not run from the takedown but look to punish with knees and uppercuts..
I can't remember having seen Dos Santos ever having used his knees. On the contrary, I remember a lot of situations when I thought a knee would be a quite obvious thing to throw and he just didn't.
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So you're saying Dos Santos would have feared a smothering by lay'n'pray wrestler, but because Cain is excellent at wrestling and control but ALSO puts a major beating while doing it, JDS has less reason to be afraid?
I think he was implying that Cain tends to attack on the ground which *usually* means there are more openings for an escape, as opposed to fighting a blanket.

However, in this context, I totally disagree. Cain is all about control. He never attacks unless his position is solid. Cain is one of the few guys who can mount a significant offence as well as blanket motherfukers.

Really, its testament to JDS abilities on the ground. Cain never managed to hold him down for too long. It was very impressive from Junior. Unfortunately for him, he couldn't stop being taken down over and over. If ever a fight deserved the "rinse & repeat" moniker, it was this fight.
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I cant wait for this fight to be over with. If Cain wins I hope he finishes JDS because Im tired of thinking how lame it was he didnt finish him in the last fight when he was rocked for five rounds then told everyone months later " I was trying to punish him!!" .....yeah when you didnt hold the belt you were going to risk him landing a hard shot when he has already done it once before. Just so you can make a point.....Done with this.
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If you believe JDS then he shouldnt gas this time but imo it was him being weary aswell from Cains offence.
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JDS gassed against Roy, so it's pretty obvious he has gas problems.
But i believe he will avoid the takedown and punish Cain's head while he is on his knees.
That situation happened twice during the 1st of the 2nd fight and JDS just walked away.
This time around i think he will capitalize on the opening.
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I think he was implying that Cain tends to attack on the ground which *usually* means there are more openings for an escape, as opposed to fighting a blanket.

However, in this context, I totally disagree. Cain is all about control. He never attacks unless his position is solid. Cain is one of the few guys who can mount a significant offence as well as blanket motherfukers.

Really, its testament to JDS abilities on the ground. Cain never managed to hold him down for too long. It was very impressive from Junior. Unfortunately for him, he couldn't stop being taken down over and over. If ever a fight deserved the "rinse & repeat" moniker, it was this fight.

Cain's style isn't really about holding his opponent down though, he will get to a dominant position and then strike, forcing his opponent to defend that, if the opponent wants to stand up, Cain doesn't do everything in his power to hold them there as he realises he can sap more energy by making them work to get up and then just slam them again.

If JDS has to get up from 10 completed TDs again then he's going to be tired no matter what. His arms will fill with lactic acid and he won't have the KO power that he needs to finish Cain.







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JDS gassed against Roy, so it's pretty obvious he has gas problems.
But i believe he will avoid the takedown and punish Cain's head while he is on his knees.
That situation happened twice during the 1st of the 2nd fight and JDS just walked away.
This time around i think he will capitalize on the opening.
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There was also one I think were Cain was left lieing flat on his face after a failed takedown. I couldnt beleive JDS just kept walking away and not doing anything to him.
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Cain's style isn't really about holding his opponent down though, he will get to a dominant position and then strike, forcing his opponent to defend that, if the opponent wants to stand up, Cain doesn't do everything in his power to hold them there as he realises he can sap more energy by making them work to get up and then just slam them again.
Yea... thats kind of what im saying.

You put it better.
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