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Old 10-21-2013, 03:54 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Even as a Silva fan i cannot put him above the man he beat, Silva takes a big fall in the p4p for that loss. Its not a greatest of all time list, its who the best now, and until Silva proves otherwise, wiedman is better.
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Old 10-21-2013, 03:57 PM   #12 (permalink)
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He's not P4P.


1 is Silva
2 is Jones
3 is Aldo
4 is GSP (even though I can't stand his boring fights)
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:07 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think 5th is about right. I really don't see him moving up that list due to the lack of competition at HW. It's just real thin, kinda always has been. Upcoming possible fights for Cain: Werdum, and Barnett( two 36 year old vets). That's just sad
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:15 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Right now the HW division is old and there are no signs of that changing anytime soon
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Old 10-21-2013, 04:32 PM   #15 (permalink)
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I think it's just a case of him not having enough fights(14) to see where he developes and improves. Granted, all his wins are dominations, and technically every criticism that exists for Cain you could make for GSP (Subseptable to being KO'd, doesn't have big power, fights may tend to be boring etc...), but if he can extend his title defense streak to 3 - 5 successful attempts, I think a case should be made for him to be in the top P4P discussion, being that he will have shattered the HW title defense record.
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You can't really make an argument for him to be ahead of Aldo, GSP, Barao, Anderson or Jones.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:12 PM   #17 (permalink)
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I guess "made" was the wrong word, but the rankings generally favor lighter guys at the top.
but Cain at 240 easily manhandles Brock at 280 and Bigfoot at 270.. 30-40lb difference is like a LW fighting a MW. Cain is numero uno.
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Old 10-21-2013, 05:34 PM   #18 (permalink)
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I think Cain should indeed be higher on the P4P list, he is a smaller sized HW who demolished ones that were much bigger than him. He is this generations' Fedor.
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I think Cain should indeed be higher on the P4P list, he is a smaller sized HW who demolished ones that were much bigger than him. He is this generations' Fedor.
So you think Cain could be slammed on his head then submit a guy or get rocked by huge shots then out of nowhere throw a huge haymaker or get rocked and then ko a guy in mid air trying to throw a flying knee? I have no interest in Cains fight or him. He needs more fights and it took him almost 100 minutes to stop JDS and koed glass jaw bigfoot. Yeah def. the Goat or above Silva on P4P. SIlva didnt lose a fight for what? 7 years!!! Yeah When Cain hits that then we will talk. I would say he is higher then GSP thought. While I hate Cain and dont hate GSP at least Cain's fights get ended eventually. Gsp's just go on forever. When Cain or GSP fight....I could care less.
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but Cain at 240 easily manhandles Brock at 280 and Bigfoot at 270.. 30-40lb difference is like a LW fighting a MW. Cain is numero uno.
That comparison doesn't work, the higher in weight you go, the less any specific weight difference matters. Weight difference may be the same, but weight advantage is not. The percentage of weight Brock has over Cain would be a lot smaller than the average MW would have over the average LW.
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